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    its made for a busy weekend for me. got the lines and rail flushed out and I have everything ready to put the upper back on now but it was getting a little darker then I liked. I will hold off calling it successful until I turn the key but I may have a little bit of hope for a change, which probably means tomorrow I will be in the restroom all day...


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    got it all put back together today. i can't tell you how excited I was to fire it up again. Primed the fuel system and checked for leaks and it was all good. Cranked it over to start and it fired up nicely. The rpms were too high but that was actually something i had been expecting and wondering why I needed the throttle stop screw so much further in all this time so I was not concerned. I looked at the IAC and it showed that it had adjusted down to 0% because the idle was so high = WIN! I look at the AFR and it for the first time is below 20 and is actually getting down to the 13-14 area + WIN!! Oh I think this is it, its working and I just need to bump the idle stop screw down a bit so I go to the hood, walk around to my tools on the passenger side and when I turn back around I see this = FFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!
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    Anyone know how to link flickr vids here? If it isn't working for you, is a vid of fuel pissing out the back of my fuel rail. It wasn't there when I first checked it, nor when I walked around the car it literally just popped like this right in front of me. I took the upper back off tonight and I have them as tight as I am comfortable doing before they strip and while it has got better its still leaking fuel. Not sure what happened as there were no orings to come out so I am not sure why it sealed up the first time I did it but will not now?
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    It's pipe threads on there right? Try taking the bolt out, making sure it's nice and clean, and re-tightening. I know it's a pain but it is worth a shot.

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    They are AN fittings I don't think it NPT. It got dark before I could really get a good look at anything past just tightening the piss out of them. With black fittings, black hose and a black rail its hard to tell and hopefully with fresh light something will show up. Looking at the data and comparing it to what I had before, EVERYTHING is much smoother then before. Between the new wires, clean injectors and I went out to get a fresh set of plugs today as well hopefully I can finally get to tuning. I can get the intake off now in 15 mins, I am sure it will take a little longer to get on as it always does.
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    Took it all back apart and could not find anything wrong with it. Put it all back together for it nice and tight to the point I was afraid of it stripping and was only saddened to find it still pissing out fuel. I took it back apart and found I had an extra 90 degree -08 fitting so I swapped it out and it still did the same thing. There are no o-rings on the connection and I do not see that either end was dimpled from tightening it down in the wrong place. Not exactly sure what the failure is but summit was good to have another on its way to me to see what I need from it.
    Take a look at the difference in the graphs. This is before

    and now the most recent one with the fuel leak.


    The light blue is the AFR and on the top you can see it was all over the place and higher than Willie Nelson(not that it is a bad thing). On the bottom it shot up while starting but was nice and smooth and much lower. Could be 3 days before I get replacement parts damn damn damn can't wait.
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    I still can’t figure out what would cause the spray other than a piece of garbage being inside the fitting keeping it from seating properly. So weird.


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    as hard as it is to look into the black fittings I could not see anything that was wrong honestly. I can only come to the conclusion its a bad part dealing with something I can't see. Because the hoses are steel braided and fairly short they are pretty stiff. I have to wonder if this last time I put it together if I didn't tighten it down with it just far enough out of line that I managed to damage the spots that mate to make the seal. I am certainly going to try to avoid that this time...
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    got the parts in, summit was great as they were at my door less then 48 hours after telling them I needed help. Got the new rail kit in and after taking the old one apart I could not figure out what the problem was. It would seem like with as much as was coming out it would be pretty obvious but I could not tell the difference between the new or old fittings. So F-it just started shot-gunning parts and replaced the rails, the regulator(just out of desperation) and the fittings on the end of the rails. Got it all down, turned the key and at first now the passenger side was leaking but just enough that I felt the fitting was wet I didn't even see any dripping. So I give the fitting another 1/16th of a turn, just enough to tighten it up and think I will be good. Turn the key and now its really dripping.... I am afraid that the steel braided lines that it comes with are too stiff and maybe putting stress on the fitting once I lock it down to the lower so I remove it from the lower, release the fitting and then tighten it up while the rail is not mounted(but close to position) and then tighten everything down. Turn the key and now its back to pissing out. Like I said I think its the steel braided hose putting pressure on the 90 degree fitting but the only review I read on this kit from summit mentions that he had issues with some fittings and swapped them out. Doesn't say what the issue is...

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    I sat in the garage and pondered my options. My favorite is just grabbing a match since there we plenty or gasoline soaked rags and pools of fuel under the car or parting it out till it was a shell and then enjoying bashing the crap out of what was left. Letting it keep kicking my ass right now is option #3 and well behind #1 and #2. F-this F-ing shit. I cleaned up the garage and I am going to the range to shoot guns tomorrow.............
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    never been closer to burning it down, it just did not make any sense. All the connectors from both kits looked good and I could not possibly tighten them down any further, safely. After a little thought the only thing I could come up with was that the steel braided lines that came with the kit were a little too stiff and in my attempt to keep the lines as short as possible I had nearly a straight line on the hoses from where they come out by the fender to where they 90s meet up at the rail. After the line is charged it becomes even stiffer and I think any vibrations or expansion on the line put all the stress on the 90s. its not kits fault as its made to hook up to the stock lines on top of the motor and I changed it to fit what I had ran. To fix it I ordered fuel hose that was not steel braided and added a few inches in the lines so there is a bend between the two points. Between the softer hose and the bend it doesn't seem like its a problem now as I got it on, charged the line and didn't find any fuel spraying HELL YEA! So then I put the upper back on(record time I will no longer complain about it now) grabbed my pops to watch under the hood and hold the extinguisher while I cranked it over. You will not guess what happened...............
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    Quote Originally Posted by ttocs View Post
    never been closer to burning it down, it just did not make any sense. All the connectors from both kits looked good and I could not possibly tighten them down any further, safely. After a little thought the only thing I could come up with was that the steel braided lines that came with the kit were a little too stiff and in my attempt to keep the lines as short as possible I had nearly a straight line on the hoses from where they come out by the fender to where they 90s meet up at the rail. After the line is charged it becomes even stiffer and I think any vibrations or expansion on the line put all the stress on the 90s. its not kits fault as its made to hook up to the stock lines on top of the motor and I changed it to fit what I had ran. To fix it I ordered fuel hose that was not steel braided and added a few inches in the lines so there is a bend between the two points. Between the softer hose and the bend it doesn't seem like its a problem now as I got it on, charged the line and didn't find any fuel spraying HELL YEA! So then I put the upper back on(record time I will no longer complain about it now) grabbed my pops to watch under the hood and hold the extinguisher while I cranked it over. You will not guess what happened...............
    ..... burnout time?


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    Sorry for the teaser. I was trying to edit a video that would show so I would not need to explain it but I am having issues with my video editing software. It wasn't that big of a fire but its amazing how quick it spread to the house. Even with fire extinguishers spraying into my mouth you could not wipe the grin off of it from the combination of the car actually starting, and me now yanking your chain a little. No there was no fire except in the motor as it started and ran. AFR was finally where it was supposed to be as well as the new IAC. The idle was a little high and by the time I got it turned down and checked all the headers with my temp gauge I was surprised to see that the temp had already got up to 190 and it was in learning mode. I watched with excitement as the temp continued to rise and got worried when it got up to 210 as I remembered I had been paying attention to getting it started and not to the temp settings I needed to enter and other things to verify in the tune about temp/fan so I turned it off at that point. Now I really get to start learning how to tune, I am afraid that will end up being the really hard part but oh can't stop now...
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    the momstang rebuild begins IT STARTED!

    Holy fawking shiznit!!!!!!!!

    Time to see just how well the “autolearn” features work as your not supposed to have to do much on your own once it’s in that mode.

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    Congrats Scott. I knew you would get it running eventually.
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    Hell yeah! I'm ready to see tires being shredded


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    Quote Originally Posted by evilcw311 View Post
    Holy fawking shiznit!!!!!!!!

    Time to see just how well the “autolearn” features work as your not supposed to have to do much on your own once it’s in that mode.

    Congrats my friend


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    I am not sure where you got that idea. The autolearn function will get the AFR to the point I set it at but there are still dozens of things that will need tweeking from afterstart enrichment to accelerator enrichment for example in fuel modifiers. I am sure and afraid its one of those things that once you start, you never stop learning.

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    Congrats Scott. I knew you would get it running eventually.
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    Hell yeah! I'm ready to see tires being shredded
    it will be fun
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    That's awesome man, glad to hear you got over the hump and got it to start up and run. I bet you will be a pro at tuning that thing in no time

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    day two of learning: Figured out I had a bad harness connection for the fan and got that fixed. It fired up and again its just amazing to see everything reacting the way it is supposed to for the first time. Afr looked good and this time the only #'s concerning me after it ran for some time was the temp and oil pressure. The temp seemed to level out at about 215-220 but its a pretty cool day today with temps in the 70s. The oil pressure also dropped from 50 psi cold to 25 hot, seems like a pretty good jump down? Now to check the logs and see what I need to read and learn about now.
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    25 psi at idle is good oil pressure

    good job getting things sorted out, im ready to see it rolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lwarrior1016 View Post
    25 psi at idle is good oil pressure

    good job getting things sorted out, im ready to see it rolling.
    Thanks I was not horribly concerned but was surprised to see it drop in half from when it started.

    Its been a pretty good week now with the car starting, getting my amp finished and while weighing it last night I was really surprised to see I have gained 5 lbs. Prior to this starting years ago I was a pretty fit 195 lbs but since then I have never been able to get above 160. Last night after weighing my amp I stepped on the scale and was happy to see I was at 165. I am probably the only person/man in his 40s happy to see I gained 5 lbs but hey I have been weird for a while.
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