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2004 Bolt ons and Cams... Dyno Results... Now What?
- Thread starter Dub Jones
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Nuttinbutcrumbs
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Heads before headers Mr Dub. Yeah heads are more expensive but headers aren't exactly cheap and I'm pretty sure they won't add enough to "scratch your hp itch".
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chris91
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LT's WILL make a BIG difference in his setup. He is going to need them when he goes with heads anyways so why not start with the cheaper of the two to begin with...
You keep saying LT's aren't cheap yet they are... You can pick up a set of used headers and midpipe for like $3-400....
Look, right here on our very forum we have a COMPLETE exhaust setup for $500....
http://www.sn95forums.com/showthread.php?70206-96-04-Mac-Longtubes-X-pipe-amp-Mufflers-Dumped
You keep saying LT's aren't cheap yet they are... You can pick up a set of used headers and midpipe for like $3-400....
Look, right here on our very forum we have a COMPLETE exhaust setup for $500....
http://www.sn95forums.com/showthread.php?70206-96-04-Mac-Longtubes-X-pipe-amp-Mufflers-Dumped
Their is a guy in Cincinnati Clist selling a set for $200
chris91
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Hmm I haven't seen those. Link me? That's the last thing mine needs.
I think I found em, they're $250 for Hedman's. I never liked the slip fit primaries though. Had a set of FloTechs on a Fox I had and those bastards leaked like crazy at the connections.
https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/pts/5206872979.html
Also found this setup, $350 for brand new Mac headers and X pipe. I'm going to get another Mac Prochamber for mine though.
https://lexington.craigslist.org/pts/5224933227.html
I think I found em, they're $250 for Hedman's. I never liked the slip fit primaries though. Had a set of FloTechs on a Fox I had and those bastards leaked like crazy at the connections.
https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/pts/5206872979.html
Also found this setup, $350 for brand new Mac headers and X pipe. I'm going to get another Mac Prochamber for mine though.
https://lexington.craigslist.org/pts/5224933227.html
Brother in law has slip fits in his fox with out problems. He uses hightemp rtv before fitting in. Works great.
I would think the slip fit work great for tranny swaps
I would think the slip fit work great for tranny swaps
Nuttinbutcrumbs
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How big of a difference are you calling "big" 30 horse gain? You think it'd make that much? Why can't yall use stock headers w new heads?
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chris91
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Yeah I'd bet he would see every bit of 20-30 hp from them. I'm currently running stock manifolds with Fox Lake Stage 2 Heads and Hitech Stage 2 Cams and a local builder/tuner that knows these engines well(built a 400+hp NA 2v) said I would easily gain 30-35hp with them.
Mmmmm......dwell time.
Nuttinbutcrumbs
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That's an apples to oranges statement though. You will gain more out of them than a car with stock heads. You're motor can pump in and out a lot more air than his.
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^ first misconception of the internal combustion engine.
A thought such as that is detrimental to your thought process. Your way of thinking is set in one path. Im not bashing you here, dont get me wrong, im only helping you understand the internal combustion engine.
A thought such as that is detrimental to your thought process. Your way of thinking is set in one path. Im not bashing you here, dont get me wrong, im only helping you understand the internal combustion engine.
chris91
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I'm not saying that because of what was said about mine. I'm saying that because it's been done countless times. Do a little research...
Nuttinbutcrumbs
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Can you show me an example of a stockish 2v with long tubes that made 270-280'rwhp? I think that was/is around his target goal.'
That's all I have to say about that.
Man!....yo cup....runith over!!! Dump it out....lets learn
Nuttinbutcrumbs
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What's left to learn? You think he'll be satisfied with a high 13 second car?
That's all I have to say about that.
Your infatuation to argue is tireless. Most here will not latch on to that. You will eventually fade away.
My suggestion. ...become one of us and love our cars. You have spark, but it shows your age. Im not degrading here, please do not misunstand me. Its just having that "forum battle" type chat has wore out long ago when most of us here were kids....on different forums. We see this forum differently
My suggestion. ...become one of us and love our cars. You have spark, but it shows your age. Im not degrading here, please do not misunstand me. Its just having that "forum battle" type chat has wore out long ago when most of us here were kids....on different forums. We see this forum differently
Nuttinbutcrumbs
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Ever notice manufactures claims of "up to" x amount of hp w x part? They didn't get x gains w a stock engine. All of the parts have to flow together to make max power, one continuos flow of air in and out. Right or wrong? Where's the biggest air restriction for this guy? Where's the biggest bottleneck? THE HEADS! Guys w aftermarket heads and stock headers make a lot more power than guys with stock heads and the freeiest flowing exhaust on the planet. Do a search, look at some graphs or just read a previous post in this thread about the guy who made 400 hp w a better set of heads and his tuner said he could gain another 30 or whatever w long tubes. Heads and compression make power. Everything else just "supports" it.
That's all I have to say about that.
You still want to argue!....lol
I may call.....game on! But first please explain your screen name.
I may call.....game on! But first please explain your screen name.
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Please feel free to carry on tho as it's quite entertaining!!!!! $-)
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