I think he ment "to get one".
2V Possibilities
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One of the best purchases you can make if you are upping the hp on a modular.
I have TSS in my 4V pump.
http://www.trianglespeedshop.com/tsss-products/
Wichers123
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Must use billet oil pump. I did not and mine broke, I was at 6k when I noticed something funky.
Wichers123
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Honestly I think it has nothing to do with hp, but everything to do with rpm and load and demand. I was using 4k wot launch control earlier in the day then later I made a hit and bam my shit was broke.
Its not a bad idea to upgrade your trigger wheel either while your at it.
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dirtyred11
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I had looked at your build thread right before I made this post, you did do something with the 03/04 cobra short block and PI heads correct?
D3VST8R96GT
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I skipped the billet gears on my 3v build only because 1) its an auto 2) I will be replacing the cams after the break in period.
If you have a stick, gears are a great idea. The 3v's seem to break them often.
If you have a stick, gears are a great idea. The 3v's seem to break them often.
Tally_4.6
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483 dollars...
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dirtyred11
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what's 483$ lol????
Wichers123
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This is incorrect information. My car was auto when it broke the gears.
Wichers123
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Billet gear pump. More like 380 but still up there.
Wichers123
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yeah it's the motor that is damaged from broken oil pump gear.
Its the tentioners that cause the harmonics.
D3VST8R96GT
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Never said stick cars only. Def noticed the trend in 3v cars but it could be that most like a mt vs at.
It was about 3:1.....
But an auto def provides for less impact/shock
D3VST8R96GT
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The oil passages for the tensioner are like 3inches form the solenoid passages that leads to the phasers...... I'm sure they play a pretty good part in part failures....
High rpm shifts, converter, or getting off the throttle hard......
Locking out the tentioners significantly reduces chains slap...that the tentioner can not over come. In rev limiting scenario's, the timing components dont follow along with how the crankshaft bounces quickly from 2 separate rpm's. The timing components are designed to pull and keep loaded in a pull scenario(tentioner arms) but as the crank bounces off a limiter and rpm drop, the rest of the components go into a slight free spin/fall and then suddenly get jerked when the power comes back on....but really quickly shifting rpm's. The chains start to get a rythmic wave, and the tentioners cant handle the chains weight slapping the arm around, ultimately allowing even more slap. This goes unnoticed because most dont rev limit/2step and its all packaged behind a cover. The constant supply of oil pressure behind the tentioner acts like a shock.
The fix?
Easy....make spacers for the insides of the tentioners to back up to..locking out. This requires a little skill figuring out what spacer size is needed.
This still does not stop the oil pump gears from breaking from harmonics, but correcting this helps tremendously reducing unwanted harmonics.
The fix?
Easy....make spacers for the insides of the tentioners to back up to..locking out. This requires a little skill figuring out what spacer size is needed.
This still does not stop the oil pump gears from breaking from harmonics, but correcting this helps tremendously reducing unwanted harmonics.
The coyotes are having issues with this also.
JerZeyStangz
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is TSS better than mellon?
You got me 
I would even buy one from MMR if needed. A really good shop in my area is a TSS dealer so I went with them.
I would even buy one from MMR if needed. A really good shop in my area is a TSS dealer so I went with them.
D3VST8R96GT
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Melling? They have reported pump failures on the 3v side....
MMR sent a guy the wrong gears and it destroyed his oil pump upon install. They sent him a free hurricane pump but it worried me enough to sway mypocket book to TSS when i do get the gears.
