some things I read on google people were saying not to use a deep wall socket but I don't see how you can get around it because using just a standard socket, for me the breaker bar and pipe is resting near the studs or the side of the head and i am positioned to where i have good enough leverage to break it loose. Using a regular socket will indeed be a task and so I am not going to mess with it anymore tonite but in the morning I will be back at it so what is you guy's position on having had used a deep wall before to break the bolts loose? And basically I'm talking about the lower head bolts but there are some inside the heads as well thats cutting it close to hitting the studs using a regular socket. Also had to use a dawgone 4 ft piece of pipe to get good leverage standing outside of the car. Using a short pipe would be dreadful on the back........SMH Also, does the power steering pump pulley have to be pulled off with a puller? After getting that off there are a few more bolts right behind the pulley that has to come off before moving the PW pump out of the way?