garrittpwl
Active Member
This isn't a rant thread as you might have thought due to the title. This is a philosophy thread.
Recently a pair of real y2k "R" seats popped up for sale on FB Marketplace (6500 asking price, a bit steep but collectors pay to play). So after commenting on there and someone calling David Isaacks Y2K clone a "fake cobra r" it had me thinking. If you know the car I'm talking about you'll know that every little detail was spent in making this car an EXACT y2k cobra, it is now more original than most real cobra R's (the guy even custom made an exact y2k cobra intake manifold).
All that aside there is a thought puzzle debate that goes as far back to the Greeks called the Ship of Theseus. The general gist of the thought puzzle is that if you restore a ship to exact specifications and replace every single piece exactly the way it was, is it still the same ship? The way I apply this to an "R" car is that; if you trashed your cobra real R, you could legally (with state paperwork) transfer that VIN and all of it's authentic parts to a new shell. Would it still be the "R"?
I say yes, I base this yes back on the Ship of Theseus debate, a boat is a boat regardless of it being entirely replaced (a river is a river though its water is ever changing). Mecum and Barrett Jackson would be selling bags of rust with vin tags if this weren't the case.
So lastly, my OPINION, if you start with a mustang shell, build it to be 99% authentic to a "Cobra" or even a "Cobra R". To the point that the TRAINED viewer would not know a difference, then you have a Cobra
Recently a pair of real y2k "R" seats popped up for sale on FB Marketplace (6500 asking price, a bit steep but collectors pay to play). So after commenting on there and someone calling David Isaacks Y2K clone a "fake cobra r" it had me thinking. If you know the car I'm talking about you'll know that every little detail was spent in making this car an EXACT y2k cobra, it is now more original than most real cobra R's (the guy even custom made an exact y2k cobra intake manifold).
All that aside there is a thought puzzle debate that goes as far back to the Greeks called the Ship of Theseus. The general gist of the thought puzzle is that if you restore a ship to exact specifications and replace every single piece exactly the way it was, is it still the same ship? The way I apply this to an "R" car is that; if you trashed your cobra real R, you could legally (with state paperwork) transfer that VIN and all of it's authentic parts to a new shell. Would it still be the "R"?
I say yes, I base this yes back on the Ship of Theseus debate, a boat is a boat regardless of it being entirely replaced (a river is a river though its water is ever changing). Mecum and Barrett Jackson would be selling bags of rust with vin tags if this weren't the case.
So lastly, my OPINION, if you start with a mustang shell, build it to be 99% authentic to a "Cobra" or even a "Cobra R". To the point that the TRAINED viewer would not know a difference, then you have a Cobra