Gas smell and probably a beaten to death topic.

[Snorky]

Was driving in red car with my family and a gas smell hit us in the car. I am aware that it has rubber lines tank to hard lines and hard lines to rails. I noticed that the rubber fuel lines were loose on the rail fittings do I slapped 3 worm clamps on them to keep them from coming off for the time being.

I see 2 options for AN conversion based on the searches. I just need to know which is the better recommended route.

Option A. $209 for the pair premade

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Option B. A list of Russell fittings and fragola pre-made 30" line fittings to make it "easy" roughly $150

FRA-375030 2 of these
RUS-640863 1 of these
RUS-640873 1 of these
RUS-640903 1 of these
RUS-641303 1 of these


I suppose the question is 1 solution better than the other? The cheaper fragola lines are ptfe. I could always make the lines myself if I felt the need. I guess I just do not know which of these possible fittings or combos have caused install issues or fires since Google and searching leads me to a lot of questionable ends.

 

[weendoggy]

Nice set, but what about the rear tank end? You can have EVAP lines leaking, tank lines leaking, etc. Before I'd spend that $$ I'd want to know where my problem is. jmo

 

[ttocs]

check the charcoal cannister

 

[Snorky]

Nice set, but what about the rear tank end? You can have EVAP lines leaking, tank lines leaking, etc. Before I'd spend that $$ I'd want to know where my problem is. jmo

The fact that the hose ends were litterally borderline loose and could easily be pulled off of the fitting that attached to the rail made me concerned about that first. Which is why I worm clamped them. Lol the thought of gas leaking out over hot headers concerns me me the most.

When I have an opportunity to drive up to my mothers to jack the back of the car up to investigate the lines from the tank as well as the vacuum lines for the evap canister in the fender I will take a looksie there too any suggestion to common failure points on any of those lines?

 

[ttocs]

wait you mean the hose that goes between the two rails up front?

 

[Snorky]

check the charcoal cannister

That's the one in the front fender? Or is it in the rear driver bumper area like a new edge?

 

[Snorky]

wait you mean the hose that goes between the two rails up front?

These 2 were the first thing that stood out to me. I could easily slide the hose up and down the fittings. They didn't appear to leak though. So I slid them all the way up and put clamps on them

 

[RAU03MACH]

I am changing mine out with new fuel lines and fittings
When I swap the engine over to 351

My original lines and spring couplers are still good
And I will let them go

 

[RAU03MACH]

If they start leaking bad times coming
That is what happened to my girls car

 

[Snorky]

If they start leaking bad times coming
That is what happened to my girls car

That's my biggest fear since I just spent all that time and money doing rear axle, suspension, cobra brakes, paint, top, and interior restoration. Even if the hoses might potentially be temporary. I forsee the v10 swap not being until my garage is built.. might be a year

 

[weendoggy]

If in doubt and you can move them, dump them and do it right.

 

[Snorky]

If in doubt and you can move them, dump them and do it right.

Sound advice. I suppose this goes back to the original question. Any idea if the piece it together Russell fittings on option B any good? If it saves $50 it might be worth it

 

[cobrajeff96]

Those premade ones look like PTFE lines, I can kind of tell by the backshells. And the site claims they can withstand exotic fuels. Plus, no tinkering.

However, I'd sooner suspect the EVAP lines in the passenger side fenderwell, they are notorious for cracking and effusing fuel vapor and they are pretty close to the fresh air intake grate. Check those out and replace as necessary.

 

[ttocs]

yes the charcoal filter is in the pass fender and the lines to it are probably old/dried out as well.

 

[weendoggy]

Sound advice. I suppose this goes back to the original question. Any idea if the piece it together Russell fittings on option B any good? If it saves $50 it might be worth it

I've always made my own lines, so if you can do it for less, go ahead. Russell fittings are good. I've used Earl's and Fragola. Just be sure to get the correct hose for the fitting. You don't necessarily need to use PTFE hose.
Agree as well to check ALL the EVAP hoses and lines. Also check your fuel tank lines. In other words, the entire system.

 

[cobrajeff96]

I made the mistake of using the old school extruded rubber lines first time I did an AN fuel system. It was fine for a while (Earls brand too and not some off-brand Amazon junk). Took about 6 to 9 months and I started smelling it if it was parked in the garage for a few days. I imagine over time it would get worse. PTFE is the only 100% guarantee you'll never get fuel permeation through the lines.

 

[Snorky]

Thanks guys! I will definitely put it up and inspect the evap/charcoal canister lines as well as the vacuum lines coming from intake manifold. This thing looks like it hasn't seen a lick of maintenance. I also saw it has the full smog system but with a shorter belt to bypass it..

I made the mistake of using the old school extruded rubber lines first time I did an AN fuel system. It was fine for a while (Earls brand too and not some off-brand Amazon junk). Took about 6 to 9 months and I started smelling it if it was parked in the garage for a few days. I imagine over time it would get worse. PTFE is the only 100% guarantee you'll never get fuel permeation through the lines.

Sounds like my experience with my green car and the regular braided steel rubber lines. If I ever redo that it will be ptfe for sure

 

[cobrajeff96]

Just whatever you do don't get anything from Amazon.

Just my opinion, but Earls is at the top along with XRP. Russel comes in a close second along with Fragola. Others I'm not too sure of.

 

[RAU03MACH]

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[RAU03MACH]

running these type of fittings and Fragola hose with vibrant fittings