The guy I sold my subs to is selling them back to me. I'm pretty excited because I loved them. Only problem is the box I had for them was 1" plywood and it was built and sealed in the car so it was a complete pain in the ass to remove and I don't see it being any easier to install. Will a standard box for 12's fit ok? They're dual core so they're a bit heavier than regular ones. Not sure if that makes a difference.