NEED HELP! Car Won't start

[SN-95.0Beast]

So my car has been running great ever since the rebuild, put about 3k miles on it so far, no problems, ran smooth. So here is where my story begins, I just moved into a new place, and i needed to borrow my grandparents f-150 so i dropped my mustang off at their house and grabbed the truck (car was running like a champ that day) car sat for like 3-4 days while i was moving. I then came back because it was going to rain so i moved the mustang into their carport, started right up no problem. i left and came back the next day to pick up the mustang as i was done moving, hopped in the car turned it on and it ran for about 20-30 secs at idle, then stalled out, and will now not start. The car is turning over, and i have checked for both fuel and spark, both of which are there. So i don't know what is wrong? if someone in the CT area would be willing to take a trip to help me figure this out it would be greatly appreciated. i will provide both gas $$$, some amazing food off the grill (your choice) and some cold beers ccasion14: thanks!

here is a list of stuff done too the car for reference


Motor:
302 bored 30 over to a 306
CP Pistons
forged connecting rods
king Race bearings
decks shaved
Auto Specialties Forged aluminum underdrive pullys
Crane cams CompuCam 2031
Cobra Crank
brand new moly rings
stock harmonic balancer
adjustable timing chain
Heads:
351 windsor jr heads
over sized valves
both heads were shaved
5 angle valve job
new valve guides
gold crane 1.7 rockers
High energy hardened push rods
brand new black and silver ford racing valve covers

Bolt-ons:
Edlebrock performer RPM intake manifold
BBK 75mm throttle body
MAC chrome intake with k/n filter in fender
MAC long tube headers wrapped in heat wrap
MAC 3'' dual exhaust with H pipe
Flowmaster 40 series mufflers
Fluidline radiator

Fuel/Electronics:
EEC tuner
Bosch 24lb fuel injectors
Vortech Billet aluminum Adjustable FPR
MSD Distributor cap/rotor
Crane Hi-6 Digital Ignition amplifier w/ Adjustable RPM limiter
SMART SPARK ignition computer
Walboro 290 Fuel pump
Wideband A/F
PRO-M MAF

Transmission & Rear end:
Roush S3 transmission with forged internals
ford racing clutch
FMS 3.55 gear set in differential
FMS Forged aluminum drive shaft
Steeda Tri-ax short throw

Suspension/wheels:
SVT cobra rims, with Toyo proxies
Stillen 3-way adjustable coilovers
Hotschis sway bars
Welded sub-frame

 

[CC'S95GT]

Do you have gas? gotta ask the obvious.
sounds like the dizzy may have gone south.
I didn't see in your mod list if the dizzy was upgraded or replaced.
When my dizzy died I had spark but it wasn't strong enough to fire the motor.
have you tried to pull codes? sometimes a no start will drop one sometimes not.

 

[SN-95.0Beast]

Do you have gas? gotta ask the obvious.
sounds like the dizzy may have gone south.
I didn't see in your mod list if the dizzy was upgraded or replaced.
When my dizzy died I had spark but it wasn't strong enough to fire the motor.
have you tried to pull codes? sometimes a no start will drop one sometimes not.

yes i have gas, lol. and by "dizzy" if you mean distributer yes i have replaced it, have an MSD. it's not throwing a CEL either, so i dunno :/

 

[98-5.0]

just cause its ''new'' and ''msd'' doesnt mean its not junk. i personally dislike msd products. i have seen to many go south, on street cars mostly

 

[SN-95.0Beast]

just cause its ''new'' and ''msd'' doesnt mean its not junk. i personally dislike msd products. i have seen to many go south, on street cars mostly

true. it is still trowing spark, not that i know it's strong enough to ignite fuel. it could be flooded as well

 

[SN-95.0Beast]

BUMP, Still need help!!!

 

[CC'S95GT]

what have you done so far?

 

[hottwheels04]

You need that tune bad, remember running that setup with no tune is not a goo idea

 

[SVTurbo 98]

what have you done so far?

+1

How exactly did you check for fuel and spark? A no start issue is always a fuel, spark or compression issue...since you say it was running fine, I'm going to assume it's either fuel or spark. Did you spray starting fluid in the throttle body port (crankcase evac port) and try to start it? If it starts for a second then dies it's a fuel issue...If it doesn't start at all it's a spark issue...

 

[SN-95.0Beast]

I can Smell fuel real bad when i go to start it, and it has fuel pressure, so i just assumed it was getting fuel, i could be wrong. As far as spark in concerned i pulled a plug and put it against the block to check for spark, which it did have.

 

[SN-95.0Beast]

You need that tune bad, remember running that setup with no tune is not a goo idea

it is tuned with EEC tuner. i am getting it tuned with Quarterhorse as soon as it gets running again

 

[CC'S95GT]

have you bypassed the MSD box?
Do you know anybody who you can borrow a stock distributor from.
I feel you have an ignition issue. Dizzy specifically. I don't think your spark is hot enough to light the fuel. or possibility the coil.

 

[SN-95.0Beast]

have you bypassed the MSD box?
Do you know anybody who you can borrow a stock distributor from.
I feel you have an ignition issue. Dizzy specifically. I don't think your spark is hot enough to light the fuel. or possibility the coil.

i think that may be the case as well

 

[hottwheels04]

fix ur issues and then go to a real dyno shop and have them tune it and burn u a sct chip, then you can get ur A/F right and mess with ur fuel etc.

 

[Silver91Hatch]

fix ur issues and then go to a real dyno shop and have them tune it and burn u a sct chip, then you can get ur A/F right and mess with ur fuel etc.

Why are you hating on the Moates QH? Its a great product. As for the OP:

Using a NOID light, check for injector pulse.
Bypass the MSD box
Check for GOOD spark with an EFI spark tester(avalible at a local parts store)
Check TPS signal wire. If its shorted to VREF, then it will be in clear flood mode.
It also could be a contianimated MAF signal

 

[snoball]

Check the TFI (mistaken and said ccrm, my bad) module. they tend to go out alot and wont let the car start. It is located in front of the passenger side strut tower. Ive personally seen 4 go bad this year alone. Its a little gray box looking thing with slots in it with a single plug going in. Held in by two 8 mm bolts.

 

[CC'S95GT]

Check the ccrm module. they tend to go out alot and wont let the car start. It is located in front of the passenger side strut tower. Ive personally seen 4 go bad this year alone. Its a little gray box looking thing with slots in it with a single plug going in. Held in by two 8 mm bolts.

that's the TFI module. The CCRM is located by the radiator expansion tank

 

[snoball]

Check the ccrm module. they tend to go out alot and wont let the car start. It is located in front of the passenger side strut tower. Ive personally seen 4 go bad this year alone. Its a little gray box looking thing with slots in it with a single plug going in. Held in by two 8 mm bolts.

that's the TFI module. The CCRM is located by the radiator expansion tank

My bad, got them mixed up, either way it wont let the car start.

 

[CC'S95GT]

it's all good

 

[hottwheels04]

goodluck and good #'s