Off-Road H or X Pipes, Where to find them?????

[TrickVert]

Unless you're building a high-power race car, there is virtually nothing gained by moving to an O/R pipe other than noise and stink. Tests have shown typically 3-5 HP. Do yourself a favor and either keep your stock setup or move to a high-flow catted pipe if you must.

With regard to shorty headers: They do not provide much if any performance improvement, again, unless you're building a high-HP engine, at which point you'd move to LT's anyway.

The Dynomax Super Turbo mufflers are a good choice, in my opinion. They will likely drone a bit (mine did), but far less than other choices. If it bothers you you can have a secondary balance tube installed, and that will cut it by 50% or more. (I did this on my '87 way back when.)

 

[TrickVert]

Question: When it says it will fit "Shorty Headers" is that the same alignment as the stock exhaust manifolds/headers????

Yes.

 

[94StewFord]

Interesting that you had drone with the ST's as I have put them in all my cars in the past from 250-500+ HP and they have all been just right. Nothing like Flowmasters, etc....

My Catted H-pipe is full of something and I want to remove it. I will not install shorty headers as the factory units are just fine for what I am trying to accomplish. Underdrive pulleys, TB, Intake, plugs, wires, simple bolt ons will suffice. I really do appreciate the input as I haven't played with one of these in quite some time though!

 

[88stang88]

Question: When it says it will fit "Shorty Headers" is that the same alignment as the stock exhaust manifolds/headers????

Yes shorty headers have the same alignment for a stock midpipe.

 

[PinkieT]

'96 and up would be the 4.6 and that wouldn't match up to my manifolds/factory headers correct?

Yes, 96-up would be 4.6. Sorry.

 

[TrickVert]

Interesting that you had drone with the ST's as I have put them in all my cars in the past from 250-500+ HP and they have all been just right. Nothing like Flowmasters, etc....

My Catted H-pipe is full of something and I want to remove it. I will not install shorty headers as the factory units are just fine for what I am trying to accomplish. Underdrive pulleys, TB, Intake, plugs, wires, simple bolt ons will suffice. I really do appreciate the input as I haven't played with one of these in quite some time though!

Thy Dynomax muffs had *far* less drone than the FM 40's they replaced on my '95, but definitely more than the stock setup. This car has Heimholz tubes to get rid of it.

I didn't realize your stock pipe was FUBAR. I'd find a catted replacement, as I hated smelling like exhaust after every time I drove the car.

Good luck with the project!

 

[Randall Garner]

If you want off road non epa equipment. Remove the plates put it on a trailer and haul it down. Say it's for racing only. A shop might do the work then

 

[94StewFord]

Pacesetter emailed me back. They are available through Summit and are running about 4-5 week lead times......

 

[ttocs]

If you want off road non epa equipment. Remove the plates put it on a trailer and haul it down. Say it's for racing only. A shop might do the work then

idunno if you watched that video I posted of that race shop that got busted all they did was alcohol race cars, they didn't even do gas anymore they said and they got busted for modifying ecu's.

 

[dwcopple]

You can always remove your stock midpipe and bust out the platinum in the cats over a bucket and make serious bank at a junkyard

 

[94StewFord]

Ordered the Pacesetter X Pipe tonight from Summit, I will let you know how long it takes and how it looks when it arrives.

 

[waynenorcross]

Question: When it says it will fit "Shorty Headers" is that the same alignment as the stock exhaust manifolds/headers????

Yes. Ford shorty headers only removed the restrictive indent needed for fast assembly line attachment.

 

[94StewFord]

Yes. Ford shorty headers only removed the restrictive indent needed for fast assembly line attachment.

So the diameter is exactly the same as well?????

 

[ttocs]

yes

 

[94StewFord]

yes

Crazy, why waste the time then..................

 

[ttocs]

the aftermarket headers have all the individual cylinders meet at the collector where the stock manifold they feed into one another and then go down to the collector.

 

[TrickVert]

Shorties can show some slight low-end torque gains, and a small amount of HP, but the general consensus is that they're not worth the cost or hassle. They look nice and change the exhaust note a bit, though.

 

[ttocs]

I don't think if you throw them on a fairly stock car that you will see much from them since the heads/intake are still choking them off but if you swap the heads/cam or put some boost on it and they they do help.

 

[94StewFord]

I don't think if you throw them on a fairly stock car that you will see much from them since the heads/intake are still choking them off but if you swap the heads/cam or put some boost on it and they they do help.

I will be doing the TB/Cold Air Intake/Exhaust/Underdrive Pulleys/Simple Bolt on's. Maybe tackle better intake, etc. down the road. This car is a cruiser, just having some easy bolt on fun with it. Are the Chips or Tune's worth it or steer clear of those?

Thanks everyone..........

 

[ttocs]

I will be doing the TB/Cold Air Intake/Exhaust/Underdrive Pulleys/Simple Bolt on's. Maybe tackle better intake, etc. down the road. This car is a cruiser, just having some easy bolt on fun with it. Are the Chips or Tune's worth it or steer clear of those?

Thanks everyone..........

until you get into the heads/cam its not needed and there really isn't enough of a gain to do a tune/chip