Ok this may sound stupid, but I was wondering...

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So, I was wondering, and I know there's a reason,or maybe not?? I've seen on Chrysler and Dodge cars that have larger engines (hemi's... 440's) installed with the engine, tranny, front suspension and k-member all as one assembly from the bottom of the car, and then bolted in.. I do realize that this also usually entails having a lift for the car to set it down on the k assembly, but my question is this... Is there a reason why this couldn't be done on one of our cars with a k-member front clip? It just seems like it would make it easier to install something like a coyote,which by the way is the is the widest V-8 used in a mustang besides a sohc 427, or installing a big block, which I know the tranny bolts are a pain to get to on that install.. I mean it would really simplify the installation of either one or even a 4.6 dohc w headers would make that install a lot easier if it could be done.. I mean I've not tried it so I don't know what the stumbling blocks are, but I'm just tossing it out to see if anyone thinks it could be done.. Anyhoooo cheers!!
 

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So, I was wondering, and I know there's a reason,or maybe not?? I've seen on Chrysler and Dodge cars that have larger engines (hemi's... 440's) installed with the engine, tranny, front suspension and k-member all as one assembly from the bottom of the car, and then bolted in.. I do realize that this also usually entails having a lift for the car to set it down on the k assembly, but my question is this... Is there a reason why this couldn't be done on one of our cars with a k-member front clip? It just seems like it would make it easier to install something like a coyote,which by the way is the is the widest V-8 used in a mustang besides a sohc 427, or installing a big block, which I know the tranny bolts are a pain to get to on that install.. I mean it would really simplify the installation of either one or even a 4.6 dohc w headers would make that install a lot easier if it could be done.. I mean I've not tried it so I don't know what the stumbling blocks are, but I'm just tossing it out to see if anyone thinks it could be done.. Anyhoooo cheers!!

A large majority of the mod guys do drop the k and everything. You can do it with pushrods but they come out from the top just as easily so that is what most do. It’s really a preference at that point, and having either a lift or pulley system to lift the body.


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I hate dropping a k member
But if I had to i would just replace it with a tubular type
I have been lucky on my mach and cobra
4.6 dohc engine coming out from the top



On my 460 in my 92 fox body
I still dropped it in the top with c6 transmission and full headers
 

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Dropping the k member makes it a breeze. That’s my go to method now. I used to pull them all through the top (coyote will go through the top also), after pulling the k member a couple times, if I need to change the oil I’m pulling the k member lol.
 

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yea its funny the first time you see it done with a cherry picker as it looks a little crazy with it holding the front of the car up but then when you think about it you feel a little silly doing it the other way.
 

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I really wish I would have thought about this. I tried to cram my dohc with long tubes and 4r70w through the top. Long story short... bench pressed the trans lol

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Got a PI intake and head swap plus shorty header install planned for this winter. Looks like that might be the best way to do it - take the motor and K frame out, do it in the work, then stab it back in.
 

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Got a PI intake and head swap plus shorty header install planned for this winter. Looks like that might be the best way to do it - take the motor and K frame out, do it in the work, then stab it back in.

Just mark the k-member and the subframe so you can put it exactly where it was before.
 
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Aight... I'm getting some good info here.... I'm gnna be replacing my k-member anyhoo, so, I'm thinking my best route would be drop/pull old mess out when I get ready for all this... Put in new k-member, align it, mark it/drill holes to make sure it goes back in true, pull it back out, assemble front suspension, engine, headers, tranny on k-member.. Then drop body back down on assembly since I'll already have my alignment marks there? Sound about right??
 

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Aight... I'm getting some good info here.... I'm gnna be replacing my k-member anyhoo, so, I'm thinking my best route would be drop/pull old mess out when I get ready for all this... Put in new k-member, align it, mark it/drill holes to make sure it goes back in true, pull it back out, assemble front suspension, engine, headers, tranny on k-member.. Then drop body back down on assembly since I'll already have my alignment marks there? Sound about right??
Ya if your doing a swap i would chang it
Make it look clean
 
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Idk if you've seen the state of my k-member right now...IMG_20201001_171727660.jpg
And from the back side... IMG_20201001_171648397.jpg

So yeh, it's not just a matter of cleaning it up for a swap.. I feel at this point it's kinda a safety thing... I mean it may be perfectly fine, but a heavy as this engine is, that's a lot of weight on a k-member that's been cut in like this.. I'll get it running and start working on the rest of it in preparation for an upgrade, but I don't think I'm gnna be spending anything on what's under the hood other than having it running for ease of working on it..
 

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Idk if you've seen the state of my k-member right now...View attachment 6937
And from the back side... View attachment 6938

So yeh, it's not just a matter of cleaning it up for a swap.. I feel at this point it's kinda a safety thing... I mean it may be perfectly fine, but a heavy as this engine is, that's a lot of weight on a k-member that's been cut in like this.. I'll get it running and start working on the rest of it in preparation for an upgrade, but I don't think I'm gnna be spending anything on what's under the hood other than having it running for ease of working on it..
Time to change it
 
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Yeahhhhhhhhh...... That's the plan!!! I didn't know it was that bad till Wednesday? Thursday? Can't remember been asleep since then, but that was the first time I saw that...
 

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In the picture, that looked easy. Was it tough disconnecting the Transmission Bellhousing from below? And hard getting to the Top Starter Bolt? I never had to change out the Starter on either one of our Mustangs. But, I hear the top bolt is a bear. I still do have some specialty tools, elbows and extensions, and Swivel Ratchet. That might make it easier to get to.
 

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