Sub frame Connectors

Discussion in 'Suspension and Brakes' started by 5-oh-MUSTANG, Dec 20, 2013.

  1. 5-oh-MUSTANG

    5-oh-MUSTANG Well-Known Member

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    CJ's Pony have some sfc on sale for $50. I was wondering if I could remove my vert' brace and install these? Do they actually help the car? Anyone feel a difference with sub frames?
     
  2. Ferocious

    Ferocious Legend SN95 Supporter

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    I don't even have them on my car and I will be the first to tell you that they will help. Especially on a vert.

    Are they full-length though?

    And you can still run the K-brace with them.
     
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    sleepn_sn95 Well-Known Member

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    I did MM full lenghts on mine and felt a small difference but nothing huge. Mostly when pulling up into driveways it didnt feel like it flexed as much. It may make more of a difference on verts though

    Ill be interested if I can feel a difference at our autox this spring though
     
  4. white95

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    Well worth it
     
  5. MustangChris

    MustangChris Legend SN95 Supporter Retired Staff

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    #1, only get them if they are weld in, full length.

    #2, yes, you should get them (if #1 pans out.)

    #3, you'll notice a difference in a convertible.

    #4, have a frame shop install them - they have the equipment to measure the car properly.

    #5, Be sure to paint (in some way) the welds afterwards to prevent rust.

    #6, We have a CJPP discount code - be sure to see if it works for your purchase! :)


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    They make a BIG difference if installed correctly. 90% of those with sub frames have them installed incorrectly.

    They need to be....

    1. full length
    2. welded

    MOST IMPORTANTLY!....

    3. installed with the suspension loaded. The cars weight needs to be on the wheels! Anyone who gives you reasons otherwise is an idiot.
     
  7. RichV

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    If you don't feel a difference, either you drive like a grandma, or you have some factory freak chassis. You should feel a significant difference in high speed turns when loading/unloading the suspension. Weight transfer will also be different a the drag strip.

    But they do need to be installed like nightfire commented.
     
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    g36 monkey Moderator Staff SN95 Supporter

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    I think I noticed more help from subframes than any other mod, especially for the money.
     
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    Noticed a night and day difference when I did mine. It really tied up my whole suspension setup together. If anyone tells you that they didnt feel a thing, they are full of it....You want to firm up the chassis even more? Get a cage....lol
     
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    It really cleaned up a lot of little rattles in the car too.
     
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    Cage and through the floor sfc. That is the only way I have driven a SN95 as my car was purchased like that. I have never felt a bit of chasis flex. I test drove one from Craigslist with pretty much stock everything, holy moly. Felt like I was riding mattress.

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  12. 5-oh-MUSTANG

    5-oh-MUSTANG Well-Known Member

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    Is there a major difference between FULL length and the regular?
     
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    lol, sadly true.