sub frame connectors

gary spielberg · Jan 10, 2015

I have a 95 GT convertible----what are the prose and cons of a full length Sub frame connector

CC'S95GT · Jan 10, 2015

NO CONS!

Orange 94 · Jan 10, 2015

A small amount of addition weight? The pros far out weigh the cons, no pun intended.

Ferocious · Jan 10, 2015

Pros... stiffer chassis, less body roll, great jacking point.

Cons.... if you are slammed as all hell they will get bruised up pretty badly.

RichV · Jan 10, 2015

Cons, cost and installation.

Other than that, all pros.

mcglsr2 · Jan 10, 2015

Pretty much what everyone else has said, there really aren't any cons. If you want to consider the things people have mentioned as actual cons, then the benefits you get from SFC's far outweigh the cons. Try to get Full Length ones if possible.

myk · Jan 10, 2015

Question: do the coupes improve that much from SFC's? I'm used to 4th Gen F bodies and a '69 Charger that wiggled like a noodle down the road before I welded in SFC's for them, but my SN95 has always felt stiff and tight. What sort of differences will I feel? My car is dropped about 1.5 inches; will I be scraping things even worse than I am now? I would only consider full length SFC's...

mcglsr2 · Jan 11, 2015

myk said:
Question: do the coupes improve that much from SFC's? I'm used to 4th Gen F bodies and a '69 Charger that wiggled like a noodle down the road before I welded in SFC's for them, but my SN95 has always felt stiff and tight. What sort of differences will I feel? My car is dropped about 1.5 inches; will I be scraping things even worse than I am now? I would only consider full length SFC's...

You will feel more of a difference going from no SFC's to having SFC's on a Fox body than you would on a SN95 coupe. The SN95 coupe's had additional support added in as part of the new platform advances. The Fox's were a little looser.

Having said that, on a SN95, you will probably feel a little bit of an improvement - and if you track your car or are super speed racer on turns/on-off ramps, then you might notice it more. Even if you don't think you notice it that much, it *is* still really tightening things up. The most telling: place a jack right behind your front wheel and then jack the car up, paying attention to what the rear on that side is doing - it's probably not moving nearly as much as the front. Have the SFC's installed, then do the jacking test again. You'll notice your rear stays almost right with the front, even though the jack is on the front quarter part of the car. This stiffness can only be a good thing.

Oh, and no, you should not be scrapping anything with SFC's and a 1.5" drop.

Edit: I just re-read your post again, what exactly are you scrapping with a 1.5" drop? That's actually a mild-ish drop, hard for me to understand what's scrapping?

CC'S95GT · Jan 11, 2015

I've never scrapped my SFC's on my 1.5 drop. Exhaust yes, but not the sub frames

Michael Plummer · Jan 11, 2015

You didn't mention which company so I'm posting a link to Stifflers. I run their FIT system and it made a difference in how my car rides and handles. http://buystifflers.com/chassisstiffening-2-2.aspx

I even added their Spider brace to help with the lower front frame rail. All in all, very happy with the customer service and quality of their product. You will need a good welder to weld this system together.

Good luck with whatever direction you decide to go in.
Michael Plummer

myk · Jan 13, 2015

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mcglsr2 said:
You will feel more of a difference going from no SFC's to having SFC's on a Fox body than you would on a SN95 coupe. The SN95 coupe's had additional support added in as part of the new platform advances. The Fox's were a little looser.

Having said that, on a SN95, you will probably feel a little bit of an improvement - and if you track your car or are super speed racer on turns/on-off ramps, then you might notice it more. Even if you don't think you notice it that much, it *is* still really tightening things up. The most telling: place a jack right behind your front wheel and then jack the car up, paying attention to what the rear on that side is doing - it's probably not moving nearly as much as the front. Have the SFC's installed, then do the jacking test again. You'll notice your rear stays almost right with the front, even though the jack is on the front quarter part of the car. This stiffness can only be a good thing.

Oh, and no, you should not be scrapping anything with SFC's and a 1.5" drop.

Edit: I just re-read your post again, what exactly are you scrapping with a 1.5" drop? That's actually a mild-ish drop, hard for me to understand what's scrapping?

CC'S95GT said:
I've never scrapped my SFC's on my 1.5 drop. Exhaust yes, but not the sub frames

Right now the exhaust is scraping along with the chin spoiler, but I'm 100% sure that's because of the terrible roads here in San Diego. SFC's are inexpensive, so even if it's just a marginal improvement I could do worse with the money spent...

CC'S95GT · Jan 13, 2015

myk said:
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SFC's are inexpensive, so even if it's just a marginal improvement I could do worse with the money spent...

It might be a marginal improvement for a car with a roof, but remember the OP has a vert. he will feel a huge improvement with SFC's

Ferocious · Jan 13, 2015

myk said:
but I'm 100% sure that's because of the terrible roads here in San Diego.

Are you in Miramar or something? The roads in San Diego are flawless and I have no issue driving my car anywhere apart from Mira Mesa/Miramar.

the5.ohh · Jan 13, 2015

Ferocious said:
Are you in Miramar or something? The roads in San Diego are flawless and I have no issue driving my car anywhere apart from Mira Mesa/Miramar.

Lmfao. Want shitty disgusting streets? come to new york mmkay

the5.ohh · Jan 13, 2015

SFC's are a great mod. I got MaxiumumMotorsports full lengths for my birthday, can't wait to get them welded on.

Ferocious · Jan 13, 2015

the5.ohh said:
Lmfao. Want shitty disgusting streets? come to new york mmkay

I've been to New York. Mmkay.

the5.ohh · Jan 13, 2015

Ferocious said:
I've been to New York. Mmkay.

Bet ya didn't go to Staten Island or Brooklyn lol. Anyways. You have sfc's?

Ferocious · Jan 13, 2015

Negative. I'll get some eventually but they're not a priority to me atm.

mcglsr2 · Jan 13, 2015

the5.ohh said:
Lmfao. Want shitty disgusting streets? come to new york mmkay

Ferocious said:
I've been to New York. Mmkay.

Yeeeaaahhhhhhh...I'm going to need you guys to come in....on Saturday, that'd be greeeeat. Yeah, it's a full day, not a half day....mmmmkay?

the5.ohh · Jan 14, 2015

mcglsr2 said:
Yeeeaaahhhhhhh...I'm going to need you guys to come in....on Saturday, that'd be greeeeat. Yeah, it's a full day, not a half day....mmmmkay?

Mmmmmmmmkay