I figured I would make a new topic, rather than quoting you in the thread you posted in so it can focus on its topic. I just wanted to have a dicussion with the forum on this topic, and try to get some people to stop spreading bs on this site atleast. So why would you not put their product on a DD? Is it because they are cheap and probably using China manufactured tubing? Well, Webco is the supplying mill for AED Motorsports who not only supplies UPR but also most of the major NASCAR and NHRA race teams throughout the industry. I don't doubt that UPR can offer really shitty customer service. We have all had it from lots of companies, but that's not what I want to talk about. I have used UPR for years, and my close friends use them on their cars that are daily driven, and raced on the track a few times every month. Where are these deadly failures that everyone's talking about? Also.. I'm really bored at work. Let's make this last atleast 10 hours.