Water Pump Upgrade

Discussion in '96-04 - 2V Specific' started by JerZeyStangz, Dec 26, 2014.

  1. JerZeyStangz

    JerZeyStangz Well-Known Member

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    What's up everyone?

    I haven't been on the forums much but i'm back with some questions because the modding never stops :headbang:. Anyways, I was researching about water pump upgrades and I stumbled across a few threads from the lightning guys/crown victoria guys who upgraded to "Navigator style" water pump. Apparently the impeller on the pump is bigger and uses a low friction bearing to save some horsepower. Do any of you guys run this style OEM Ford pump on your NPI long block or PI long block pre 2001? I would like to get more information on this because I was looking at water pump options. My GT needs a overhaul on the cooling system so this is going to be a spring/summer project. :eek:
     
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    Interesting it looks like a direct fit for us. I picked up a Stewart a few years ago but I would have considered the Navi pump had I known.
     
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    Im not 100% with the flow rate of the impeller type, but I examined pumps from a 5.4l compared to stock 4.6l and the impellers were in fact different. Such as one less impeller blade.... I would think the 5.4l would have a higher flow rate at lower rpm. All the water pumps bolt up but are different lengths, short/long, just use the correct offset pulley to keep belt in line. The low friction bearing is cool idea and ill be lurking for one! Cool find and thanks for sharing
     
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    The triton v10 pump (2v) used the same gasket as the 4.6, so id love to see a write up on the 5.4 - if its the same or not....
     
  5. JerZeyStangz

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    It all started with EMP Stewarts water pump, I read it in the SHM mustang book that is a great mod for your Mustang like you have Droptop just the price tag is a little high compared to the Navi pump. I wasn't even looking for Navi pump but some people chimed in as a alternative. It looks to be a direct bolt on for our long blocks since we have the long nose pumps, but I do not know anyone who tried it here yet, haha. One thing I can compare tho is that the SHM pump was designed for high RPM application for the occasional track duty/street racing, the Navi pump is a heavy duty pump for truck engine to keep things cool.
     
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    I would love to see it too! There is just not enough information out on our platform.
     
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    Damn that Stewart pump is expensive now. I think mine was $85 and the stock was $55 back then. Parts go up so fast once production years are over.
     
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    The "modular" family 4.6l, 5.4l, 6.8l, all share the same external locations for accessories. No difference in hole locations. Deck height being the difference
     
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    Yep, everything goes up when the production years are over, sometimes I wish I didn't sit on parts when I had the option to get them.

    I love that about the ford engine family.



    Note: The stewarts EMP is going for 119.99 over at Summit Racing, the Navi Pump is going for 75 OEM on rock auto. Man I have a decision to make in a few months haha.
     
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    Interested to see the outcome
     
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    I had a stock 96 pully, swapped to the mezier pump and it works great...sitting on jack stands
     
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    +1 on Stewart racing pump I've had mine for over 6 years still going strong.
     
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    go electric :)
     
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    I really like the mechanical pumps, but electric is awesome too.
     
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    I agree electric pump had its place but the Stewart pump is plug and play and I wanna say it takes less than 1HP to turn the pump.
     
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    What do your temps look like in summer in stop & go traffic? Highway?
     
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    ^ my car is supercharged and uses an air to air intercooler in stop and go traffic about 180 , when cruising on the highway maybe 175 or so.
     
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    very stable, I can't wait to do mine in the spring/summer.