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Message: <blockquote data-quote="98Warhorse" data-source="post: 1025429" data-attributes="member: 16057">Kooks is out of the question, im sure they make a great quality product but i think a mid level brand will do just as good at half the price, even if it does take a bit more work to get them on.I've heard good stuff about Pypes, sorry to hear about your bad experience.  my cousin currently has a set of mufflers on his 12 mustang and really likes them.  I bought a UPR X pipe the same year i purchased the car in 2008 and have yet to have any problems with it, i can say the same for my Mac catback.  I think i might go ahead and just get the Mac ceramic coated long tubes, from what i've seen they are fairly priced and i believe them to be of fair quality.</blockquote>