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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jrgunn5150" data-source="post: 505652" data-attributes="member: 9682">Actually... You could try pulling the VB out, draining the converter, getting it as empty as possible, and switching to Mercron V. It was formulated specifically to fix converter shudder during lock up. It is important that you get as much fluid out as possible.Also, when you drop the pan, it will be much easier to diagnose the internal condition of the trans. If you get the pan down and it's covered in material, or has any metal in it, stop, go no further, put the pan back on, and put the old fluid right back in. Get ready for a new trans.The problem is, if the converter clutch is going, all the friction material from it is running throughout the trans.Before you go any further, get teh pan down.</blockquote>