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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MyLittlePony" data-source="post: 1534629" data-attributes="member: 11359">Agreed. Just call it the Mach E, or simply the Mustang II, because that’s what it is, the right car for the right time. People hate on the Mustang II today, but in the late 70s, they were somewhat popular. They needed something with decent fuel economy. Plus, it was a way to continue on the Mustang name, rather than kill it off like the Camaro was in the early aughts.What on earth are you talking about? Most EVs today have about a 200-300 range. My 94 Mustang won’t even do 130. Range on that sucks! There are plug in hybrids with worse range, like 20-60, but it uses gas to generate electricity to extend that range, giving it an INSANE fuel economic range. I suggest anyone who has range anxiety to buy one of those first. And if your daily commute is 200-300 miles one way, and you CANT recharge, then sure, an EV isn’t right for you. Plug in hybrid though still may be worth looking into however.Why? That’s stupid. They’re probably not even there. I don’t honk at every mofo getting gas. God. Everyone would hate me if I did that.I think none of you people know/understand what fast charging is. So, for example, I drove an EV from Dallas to Houston and back. I used fast chargers about as often as I would fill up an ICE, and only because the car was a 2015 model, therefore did not have the range newer models of today had. I charged at actual physical gas stations. Me and my child went to the bathroom, had a meal, then left. On long road trips with a family, tell me you do not spend about 30 minutes at a stop, especially at travel centers like these were. Our stops may have been longer than 30, but only because we had lunch there. You guys still eat meals on road trips, right? Well there’s your extra 30 minutes.Oh, and I do feel like I need to mention our TX-NM-CO trip we had last June. We didn’t want to deal with plotting out our trip, worrying whether or not a charging station was there, functioning, and didn’t have some jerk blocking it like somehow EVs were going to destroy his entire way of life if he didn’t inconvenience some people, so we rented a car. We came across a gas station littered with vehicles. I just needed to pee, but it was so busy because everyone there wanted gas, but the supply truck never came. People were trying to figure out if they had enough to make it to the next town. Our rental was a Camry, so we were fine. Everyone else: range anxiety.On the way back home, I needed to pee again. Came across a town, but they wouldn’t let me inside. Not a single business in town would let me inside to pee. Reason? No electricity. Being the only town for hundreds of miles, they had several gas stations, only no electricity means no power at the pumps. Yes, an EV could potentially have a problem, but I’m bringing this up because people are always quick to use this as a defense, not realizing that they can’t refuel without power as well. During Snowmageddon 2021, it was the EVs that could be driven, while ICE vehicles could not because even with the power back on, supplies were low, or other systems were down, so they could not purchase the fuel.I had one issue in my Mustang where the power was on, but they couldn’t get the pumps back on and operational. Big deal, I’ll go to the next one. Next one, the owner came out yelling at me about how I stole this other guys gas. Not “I’m sorry, but the wrong pump was activated” just straight up “You stole!!!” I put my card in and pumped it like I usually do, unlike the guy I somehow magically stole from a completely different pump. …but that does bring up another road trip story…TX-FL, we rented another car, and again, I needed to pee. We try to get gas anytime we pull over, but the place was packed!!! No one was in their cars. No one even had the pump in the inlet, so no one was getting gas either!!! I was there for half an hour, because again, family, and no one left! Basically what was happening was that people were prepaying but not at the pump, they planned to prepay inside. No one was checking out at the time. 30 minutes, no gas! Apparently it’s the only station for a lengthy way, so same situation!!! Thankfully, it was a fuel efficient car again, so we were able to make it to another station but I shouldn’t keep getting range anxiety with a gas car!!! That’s the whole point of renting!!! This was the reverse of ICEing BTW. Instead of blocking EVs from charging, people were blocking ICEs from refueling. Both should be illegal, especially if you consider how much money that gas station would have made in just those 30 minutes alone.</blockquote>