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<blockquote data-quote="MyLittlePony" data-source="post: 1534640" data-attributes="member: 11359"><p>Fully agree. People seem to forget that there was once a time in which you were lucky to even have a gas station in your town. It’s 2023, and I already have to drive several towns over if I want ethanol free gas. That’s what it was like in the past, and that’s what it will be like in the future. Today, you may have trouble finding EV chargers, but at least there are methods of finding out where they are. In the old days, you pretty much survived on AAA planning, and the road maps gas stations gave you. You got gas in every town you passed because you did not know if the next town even had a station, or if it was even open. You may not even know where the next town even was. </p><p></p><p>I remember driving my Mustang a few years back 10 or so miles out of the way because I remember what little was on the way back, and didn’t think I had enough fuel to get me there. When I arrived, the station was closed. I forgot where I was. It was Sunday in a small Texas village. You do not work on Sunday. Thankfully the pump (there was only one, but two could use) took credit cards. The pump looked to have been from the 80s. Old enough to be questionably outdated, but new enough to take a credit card. I was super grateful that it worked, otherwise, I would’ve been screwed. That’s what life used to be like. </p><p></p><p>Some guy pulled up and couldn’t get his side of the pump working. So holy crap! What if that had been me, and I didn’t check to see if the other side worked because there might’ve been no one to ask like he did! And there apparently wasn’t any cellular service either, so my navigation did not work. I was armed with a road atlas from 1985, in case crap like that happened, and would simply have to keep driving out of the way, hoping like hell I didn’t run out of gas. It’s not like I could call for help. It was 2018, and I freaking time traveled!</p><p></p><p>As far as seeing how far we’ve come… I look at the EV debate the same way people did with carburetion vs fuel injection, and standard vs automatics… …it is a completely different driving experience, but in the end one is superior in performance. That doesn’t mean the driving and ownership experience is however. It’s ok to prefer different things. And if you do find that EVs aren’t the right fit for you, don’t hate on those that do like them, as they are doing you a favor. Not only are they compensating for your own carbon footprint, but they are also not using gas that you need. Less demand means more supply. Yes corporations control that supply, but at least you don’t have to worry about it not being renewable. There will be fewer and fewer places to buy gas in the future, but you’ll probably be dead before it becomes a problem for you.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, I have seen several ICEs catch fire out in the wild. The only EVs I’ve seen are only in the news. When a vehicle that literally functions by producing thousands of micro explosions catches fire, it’s not really newsworthy. But in the super rare event an EV catches fire, it becomes national news, sometimes international. And they usually catch fire because they were previously involved in some horrific accident. That’s why when certain vehicles, like Teslas, become salvaged, they disable your access to their supercharger network. This is because if that risky vehicle does catch fire, not only does it damage equipment and other vehicles, but it will be in national news, and that’s not the type of PR they want. They would rather be known for having that crazy psychotic South African paypal guy for a CEO, than an actual fire. There have been tons of gas stations that caught fire though. Not newsworthy beyond local. Remember when they didn’t even want you to be on your phone, due to fears of sparking up a gas fire?</p><p></p><p>My almost 30yo mustang has fuel hoses dangling mere inches from my exhaust. I park it right next to a Tesla that is always plugged in when not in use. Which am I more fearful of catching fire and burning my house to the ground?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MyLittlePony, post: 1534640, member: 11359"] Fully agree. People seem to forget that there was once a time in which you were lucky to even have a gas station in your town. It’s 2023, and I already have to drive several towns over if I want ethanol free gas. That’s what it was like in the past, and that’s what it will be like in the future. Today, you may have trouble finding EV chargers, but at least there are methods of finding out where they are. In the old days, you pretty much survived on AAA planning, and the road maps gas stations gave you. You got gas in every town you passed because you did not know if the next town even had a station, or if it was even open. You may not even know where the next town even was. I remember driving my Mustang a few years back 10 or so miles out of the way because I remember what little was on the way back, and didn’t think I had enough fuel to get me there. When I arrived, the station was closed. I forgot where I was. It was Sunday in a small Texas village. You do not work on Sunday. Thankfully the pump (there was only one, but two could use) took credit cards. The pump looked to have been from the 80s. Old enough to be questionably outdated, but new enough to take a credit card. I was super grateful that it worked, otherwise, I would’ve been screwed. That’s what life used to be like. Some guy pulled up and couldn’t get his side of the pump working. So holy crap! What if that had been me, and I didn’t check to see if the other side worked because there might’ve been no one to ask like he did! And there apparently wasn’t any cellular service either, so my navigation did not work. I was armed with a road atlas from 1985, in case crap like that happened, and would simply have to keep driving out of the way, hoping like hell I didn’t run out of gas. It’s not like I could call for help. It was 2018, and I freaking time traveled! As far as seeing how far we’ve come… I look at the EV debate the same way people did with carburetion vs fuel injection, and standard vs automatics… …it is a completely different driving experience, but in the end one is superior in performance. That doesn’t mean the driving and ownership experience is however. It’s ok to prefer different things. And if you do find that EVs aren’t the right fit for you, don’t hate on those that do like them, as they are doing you a favor. Not only are they compensating for your own carbon footprint, but they are also not using gas that you need. Less demand means more supply. Yes corporations control that supply, but at least you don’t have to worry about it not being renewable. There will be fewer and fewer places to buy gas in the future, but you’ll probably be dead before it becomes a problem for you. Yeah, I have seen several ICEs catch fire out in the wild. The only EVs I’ve seen are only in the news. When a vehicle that literally functions by producing thousands of micro explosions catches fire, it’s not really newsworthy. But in the super rare event an EV catches fire, it becomes national news, sometimes international. And they usually catch fire because they were previously involved in some horrific accident. That’s why when certain vehicles, like Teslas, become salvaged, they disable your access to their supercharger network. This is because if that risky vehicle does catch fire, not only does it damage equipment and other vehicles, but it will be in national news, and that’s not the type of PR they want. They would rather be known for having that crazy psychotic South African paypal guy for a CEO, than an actual fire. There have been tons of gas stations that caught fire though. Not newsworthy beyond local. Remember when they didn’t even want you to be on your phone, due to fears of sparking up a gas fire? My almost 30yo mustang has fuel hoses dangling mere inches from my exhaust. I park it right next to a Tesla that is always plugged in when not in use. Which am I more fearful of catching fire and burning my house to the ground? [/QUOTE]
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