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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jrgunn5150" data-source="post: 488298" data-attributes="member: 9682">Lol, a mid pipe at 85 dollar's an hour, book calls it a three hour job, plus materials, etc. Is roughly 260.00, after local tax it should be around 290.So I guess their labor rate is somewhat higher than what I charge. You guy's need to look at the big picture here though. It's not 8 bolts and some hangers. It's 8 bolts and some hanger's the OP either couldn't, or didn't want to do himself. If it was so damn easy, he would have done it himself. If you want someone else to use their expertise, and want them to be crammed under your car, doing work that you don't want to do, then expect to compensate them. Not to mention an Offroad X can bring legal ramifications, I bet alot of places refused to install it....You also have the fact that they have bills to pay around their, you aren't just paying for their time.The important question to ask, isn't "can I get it done cheaper" it's, "Did they do a good job". Are you happy with the work they did already? Why not bring them more business? They'll probably cut you a break anyway.When you guy's look for a shop, don't be cheap bastard's. A high labor rate doesn't mean they are ripping you off, it might just mean they are really good at what they do...</blockquote>