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<blockquote data-quote="shovel" data-source="post: 1563284" data-attributes="member: 29855"><p>Modular assembly is much less expensive (labor) and moving the coil outboard provides more room to package the catalyst & OHC heads inside the engine bay & allows the manufacturer to isolate engine NVH and road NVH independently from each other. These things are all valuable on their own but don't have much to do with ride or handling.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ride quality is subjective, none of us is going to do a thing that costs us money and then tell ourselves and others we did a dumb thing and none of us will ever agree on the best pizza toppings, the best music or the best ride character. I've seen professional car reviewers complain about the ride quality on present-era six figure cars, like as if benz or porsche didn't spend millions developing that suspension and we're all sitting here in our jammies buying parts from amazon. </p><p></p><p>If you like how yours rides, cool but that doesn't mean anything - I'm not picking on you here this goes for all of us, me and everyone. </p><p></p><p>If it slays on the track then you have lap times recorded and those speak for themselves, albeit a car might be unbearable to ride in and still pick up some good numbers so we're back to square one on that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Companies sell what they think they can make money on and justifying it is marketing's job. There's companies that sell directional speaker wires to audio geeks and right now there's geeks on an audio forum joking with each other about the dumb things we spend money on. For the record I don't have a problem with sleeved coilover kits I just don't think that's a make-or-break component of this conversation.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Strictly talking about DIY effort I'd rather install a coilover strut than fight a stock height divorced coil. I can do it, done it lots of times but it's always a real hassle compared to a strut. Maybe the first time you install a strut with c/c plates and all that it's some extra effort but forever after that it's cake. Anyway you're right about that last part we can all ruin a car and it is more prevalent than not. The hilarious part is we all can identify when someone else did it wrong but it's never, ever, ever ourselves. Nope not me I did it right it's everyone else who did it wrong. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shovel, post: 1563284, member: 29855"] Modular assembly is much less expensive (labor) and moving the coil outboard provides more room to package the catalyst & OHC heads inside the engine bay & allows the manufacturer to isolate engine NVH and road NVH independently from each other. These things are all valuable on their own but don't have much to do with ride or handling. Ride quality is subjective, none of us is going to do a thing that costs us money and then tell ourselves and others we did a dumb thing and none of us will ever agree on the best pizza toppings, the best music or the best ride character. I've seen professional car reviewers complain about the ride quality on present-era six figure cars, like as if benz or porsche didn't spend millions developing that suspension and we're all sitting here in our jammies buying parts from amazon. If you like how yours rides, cool but that doesn't mean anything - I'm not picking on you here this goes for all of us, me and everyone. If it slays on the track then you have lap times recorded and those speak for themselves, albeit a car might be unbearable to ride in and still pick up some good numbers so we're back to square one on that. Companies sell what they think they can make money on and justifying it is marketing's job. There's companies that sell directional speaker wires to audio geeks and right now there's geeks on an audio forum joking with each other about the dumb things we spend money on. For the record I don't have a problem with sleeved coilover kits I just don't think that's a make-or-break component of this conversation. Strictly talking about DIY effort I'd rather install a coilover strut than fight a stock height divorced coil. I can do it, done it lots of times but it's always a real hassle compared to a strut. Maybe the first time you install a strut with c/c plates and all that it's some extra effort but forever after that it's cake. Anyway you're right about that last part we can all ruin a car and it is more prevalent than not. The hilarious part is we all can identify when someone else did it wrong but it's never, ever, ever ourselves. Nope not me I did it right it's everyone else who did it wrong. ;) [/QUOTE]
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