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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Snorky" data-source="post: 1561618" data-attributes="member: 29157">Having gone stock manifolds to bassani mid length. Then back to stock manifolds, and then to on3 forward facing headers.  I would run the bassani mid lengths again without question.  Get most of the power gain offered by long tubes. Steering shaft threads between one of the primaries that loops around it. Each primary is hung individually then a collector is slipped on and a retaining bolt holds it together. So it's not a terrible install like true long tubes, and you can still pull the trans with the headers on.  You also don't loose a boat load of ground clearance like the long tubes since the header collector ends at the very bottom of the firewall. The one downside is you are stuck with only the bassani X pipe with or without cats.  Unless you have a shop weld you up something. Which H pipes are pretty easy for any real fabricator to make.  As for the install I would remove the sheet metal motor mount plate shield that goes between the motor mount and the engine. If I ever ditch the turbo setup I will be going back to Bassani mid.  Just food for thought.  Even changing log manifolds to short headers is kind of a pain in the ass. In any scenario of doing shorties mid or long tubes. I would probably pop the 2 lower shock bolts. Drop my A arms yo yank the front springs. Lift them back up and slip thr bolts back in to hold it. Then have inner fender mounted engine holder. ~$70 I think at harbor freight. Attach. That the chains to the bolts that hold the alternator. Pump jack under the K.  Remove the 2 motor mount nuts detach the steering shaft, zip out the 8 bolts for the K member and lower the K so it sort of just sags. It will open up all the room in the word to put those bolts in. Allow you to remove the shim plate if you're going mid or long tubes. Plus get a big wrench in there for the EGR nut.</blockquote>