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<blockquote data-quote="Don@LRT" data-source="post: 347005" data-attributes="member: 8086"><p>This thread has some great info on both systems, but since I'm most familiar with SCT, I'd like to clarify a couple of things. First is the price - dunno what the average is but $849 seems a tad high - we sell the XCal2/X3 version with software with an XCal 2 or X3 AND with our Pro Racer Training Video for $728 + shipping. Since I created the Pro Racer Training video we are basically the only ones who give this for free. We DO sell the training video seperate for $49 if you got your PRP from someone else. It covers both Advantage 2.9 and 3.0 - there is over 10 hours of video on it. Teaches you to use the software (using the software), how to tune EEC IVs, EEC V's, troubleshooting, etc. by showing setup of the file, datalogging and making changes.</p><p></p><p>The CHIP version of the PRP does cost a lot more - mainly because you have to buy a chip and a chip burner. But it does offer self tuneability for 88-95 Mustangs.</p><p></p><p>If you already have an Xcal 2 or X3 and want to add the PRP software, that's $349 + shipping and we give a discount on the training videos if you get it from us.</p><p></p><p>I have heard good things about Sniper and we may soon become dealers for them. I do know tuning concepts and the names of the parameters are similar - so the video MAY also help Sniper tuners as well. I do know that the names of parameters in DiabloSport Revolution are almost exactly the same as SCT (and Ford) use. So I assume Sniper is the same.</p><p></p><p>We NEVER make people wait for thier tunes as long as they can supply the PCM code to us - we load the tunes into the XCal 2 or X3 and send backups on CD as well. The only way someone would have to wait would be if they do not have their PCM code or have a later model that may have been reflashed by the Ford dealer and in that case they'd have to get the XCal, use it to read the "strategy" email it to me and I'd get the tunes emailed back to them quickly. But this normally is not an issue. </p><p></p><p>The SCT PRP Manual is OK - not great - it has lots of good info in it, but it also has a lot of outdated info in it as well as older SCT hardware in it. I feel qualified to say this, since I wrote it. It needs updating really badly, but I don't do things like that for SCT anymore, so It's up to them to update it. That's kind of why I did the videos, they are much more comprehensive and concentrate on pure tuning.</p><p></p><p>No need to argue about any of this because lots of choices are really a good thing for the tuning community!</p><p></p><p>Hope this helps!</p><p></p><p>Don</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Don@LRT, post: 347005, member: 8086"] This thread has some great info on both systems, but since I'm most familiar with SCT, I'd like to clarify a couple of things. First is the price - dunno what the average is but $849 seems a tad high - we sell the XCal2/X3 version with software with an XCal 2 or X3 AND with our Pro Racer Training Video for $728 + shipping. Since I created the Pro Racer Training video we are basically the only ones who give this for free. We DO sell the training video seperate for $49 if you got your PRP from someone else. It covers both Advantage 2.9 and 3.0 - there is over 10 hours of video on it. Teaches you to use the software (using the software), how to tune EEC IVs, EEC V's, troubleshooting, etc. by showing setup of the file, datalogging and making changes. The CHIP version of the PRP does cost a lot more - mainly because you have to buy a chip and a chip burner. But it does offer self tuneability for 88-95 Mustangs. If you already have an Xcal 2 or X3 and want to add the PRP software, that's $349 + shipping and we give a discount on the training videos if you get it from us. I have heard good things about Sniper and we may soon become dealers for them. I do know tuning concepts and the names of the parameters are similar - so the video MAY also help Sniper tuners as well. I do know that the names of parameters in DiabloSport Revolution are almost exactly the same as SCT (and Ford) use. So I assume Sniper is the same. We NEVER make people wait for thier tunes as long as they can supply the PCM code to us - we load the tunes into the XCal 2 or X3 and send backups on CD as well. The only way someone would have to wait would be if they do not have their PCM code or have a later model that may have been reflashed by the Ford dealer and in that case they'd have to get the XCal, use it to read the "strategy" email it to me and I'd get the tunes emailed back to them quickly. But this normally is not an issue. The SCT PRP Manual is OK - not great - it has lots of good info in it, but it also has a lot of outdated info in it as well as older SCT hardware in it. I feel qualified to say this, since I wrote it. It needs updating really badly, but I don't do things like that for SCT anymore, so It's up to them to update it. That's kind of why I did the videos, they are much more comprehensive and concentrate on pure tuning. No need to argue about any of this because lots of choices are really a good thing for the tuning community! Hope this helps! Don [/QUOTE]
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