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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ttocs" data-source="post: 1036573" data-attributes="member: 11896"><p>that pic is with my head in the headrest, camera right infront of it.  Yea you will not be able to tell when you are going less then 15 mph, or when the engine starts super cold.  If you need the gauges to tell you that then maybe you should drive a taxi.  And besides the temp sensor is in the stock location so this is the only way a stock gauge can get more useless.  There are some warning lights blocked but when they light up they cast the light across the top of the cluster shroud and is still easy to notice when it comes on.  I see them light up when I start the car.</p></blockquote><p></p>