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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steven" data-source="post: 408035" data-attributes="member: 9605">exactly. I saved up money for cams, had my PI and a 5 speed swap sitting on the floor in the shop, next to the car. I woke up oneday, and said thats it. It took me months to find the money to do it all, how will I ever progress afterwards with the car when everything costs a thousand dollars or more. I've been around this block with dave and many other folks, and 5.0s, if you want to go fast, are straight up the best motor to do so with. I could take a saturday, go to the junkyard, and come home with enough parts to put my car in the twelves, and these are all factory parts, off of explorers and such. It's sickening to not be able to do that with a 2v.It's more the car then the motor, very hard to work on when to just put heads on it you have to dropped the motor out. They are just as expensive as 4v's on top of what the cars already cost. Kinda inefficient. The L's are the modular monsters. They are basically the only star of the 2v lineup. It's ridiculous when a small block with only 2v's can punch out 400+ all motor and the 2v's cap out at 350. It's not bad, but expensive, for only 350 in a 2v.I do believe paul, thats the first thing we've ever agreed on. Stop that, before we actually start to get along :dunno:</blockquote>