4r70w?

[sleepn_sn95]

I searched but could not find any clear, definant answers. What is EVERYTHING that I need to swap my aode out for a 4r70w. I know I will need a trans from a 99-04 v6, but is there any specific year, I read something about the starter bolts being different? Also what about the tailshaft, does it need to be changed? What about the electronics, I have heard about the baumann TCS? Sorry about all the questions, I just want to make sure I know about everything before I take on this project.

One other thing, would my mostly stock gt (3.73's, CAI, Intake) benefit from a torque converter? I also plan on a small H/C/I in the future.

Thanks

 

[atlanticblue98]

get a 4R70W from a 96-98 V6

 

[LAFENATU]

Why are you looking to build a 4R70W specifically??

The difference in the AODE and 4R70W is minimal.

Mainly the wider gear ratios/one-way mechanical diode, extension housing bushing and seal diameter. The 1998+ has a hardened input shaft as well.

 

[sleepn_sn95]

get a 4R70W from a 96-98 V6

Is this an easier swap? Is there any strength differnences from the 98+ 4r70w's?

 

[LAFENATU]

get a 4R70W from a 96-98 V6

Is this an easier swap? Is there any strength differnences from the 98+ 4r70w's?

You forgot to answer my question, but yes - the 1998+ have a hardened input shaft.

 

[atlanticblue98]

get a 4R70W from a 96-98 V6

try to get a 98 v6 tranny because of the hardened input shaft and you won't have to swap from the 99-04 tailshaft

And same question as above, why do you want to swap?

Is this an easier swap? Is there any strength differnences from the 98+ 4r70w's?

 

[sleepn_sn95]

Why are you looking to build a 4R70W specifically??

The difference in the AODE and 4R70W is minimal.

Mainly the wider gear ratios/one-way mechanical diode, extension housing bushing and seal diameter. The 1998+ has a hardened input shaft as well.

I was looking at the 4R because of the wider gears and the added stength. I plan for a mild h/c/i then a vortech for around 350whp and want something that is strong and reliable. I can get a used v6 trans for cheap and I thought it would be a better option than rebuilding my old aode.

 

[LAFENATU]

Why are you looking to build a 4R70W specifically??

The difference in the AODE and 4R70W is minimal.

Mainly the wider gear ratios/one-way mechanical diode, extension housing bushing and seal diameter. The 1998+ has a hardened input shaft as well.

I was looking at the 4R because of the wider gears and the added stength. I plan for a mild h/c/i then a vortech for around 350whp and want something that is strong and reliable. I can get a used v6 trans for cheap and I thought it would be a better option than rebuilding my old aode.

You'll be fine with the AODE as far as the gears are concerned. The only difference is the first 2 gears and if you have gears in the car already then that eliminates the need for the wider ratio set.

I would HIGHLY recommend installing a Baumann Shift Kit. It's the best kit on the market, hands down.

It has a torque compensation setup and it allows the transmission hydraulics to be tuned to the engine's torque characteristics. So it gives you the best shift feel independent of the shift firmness setting.

Get a long Tru-Cool self regulating trans cooler 18,000 GVW. It's about ~$60

http://www.becontrols.com/pricing.htm



AOD-E/4R70W Valve Body Recalibration Kit

Catalog Number: RK-AODE for 92-95 AODE/4R70W $99.95


You're eventually going to need a new converter with a blower. If you're replacing/rebuilding your trans, GET A NEW CONVERTER. Don't do this job twice, trust me.

 

[sleepn_sn95]

Do you have any track times from the setup in your sig? That is similar to what I am going for. If you have a different converter, what size stall are you running?

 

[LAFENATU]

Do you have any track times from the setup in your sig? That is similar to what I am going for. If you have a different converter, what size stall are you running?

No times with Drag Radials and the new converter.

I have a Hughes Performance HD 2500 Stall 11" which is stock size

 

[sleepn_sn95]

Lafenatu, Thank you for all the help.
The car is a nice weather/weekend car and I want to start going to the track a little more often. Would you suggest using an aftermarket converter with a stock engine? Also if I replaced my 3.73's with some 4.10's I think I would be a little more satisfied? Right now it feels kind of sluggish even with my gears.

My goal is mid 14's with a rebuilt auto, tubular gt40 intake, 65mm TB, LT's, weight reduction, and maybe new gears? Last time at the track I ran a 15.2 with just a CAI, exhaust (o/r h and flowmasters), and 3.73's, and that was with heavy 18' chrome saleens. Do you think mid 14's are possible?

 

[wayne94mustang]

Yeah, mid 14 are real, my car runs low 14s at 98mph with stock heads.

 

[LAFENATU]

Lafenatu, Thank you for all the help.
The car is a nice weather/weekend car and I want to start going to the track a little more often. Would you suggest using an aftermarket converter with a stock engine? Also if I replaced my 3.73's with some 4.10's I think I would be a little more satisfied? Right now it feels kind of sluggish even with my gears.

My goal is mid 14's with a rebuilt auto, tubular gt40 intake, 65mm TB, LT's, weight reduction, and maybe new gears? Last time at the track I ran a 15.2 with just a CAI, exhaust (o/r h and flowmasters), and 3.73's, and that was with heavy 18' chrome saleens. Do you think mid 14's are possible?

Aftermarket converter is fine with a stock engine, I would wait until the rebuild at least. You have 3.73's so you should be fine imo..

The difference in 3.73 vs 4.10 is not huge. You are not going to notice much and with 4.10's, at full throttle it will most likely hit the rev limiter before it shifts into 2nd. You will have to lift off the accelerator to get it to shift into 2nd gear.

You're going to need a shift kit to make 14's at least. The transmission shifts too slow to make good times in the 1/4.