94 cobra ecu

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my 94 cobra is getting big ported heads/intake and was wondering about how the computer is going to act.i built a h/c/i 95 gt that the computer did not adjust too without a tune.was wondering how the cobra ecu reacts to mods.
 
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yeh i figured,you know all the fowes ive built with the a9l ecu worked great without a tune.the a9l excepted alot of mods.

the 94/95 gt did not.just wondering if the cobra ecu was any different.
 

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it will still give you fits to an extent. A tune regardless is in order...even if you swapped to an A9L
 

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If you do just heads and intake, you really do not need a tune. If you add the cam, you will probably want a tune for driveability. Actually, the Fox body processors are really the same, they do not magically adapt to bigger cams. We've seen a lot of A9L equipped cars in the shop with big cams that really benefitted from a tune.

We can tune a SN95 computer to almost exactly emulate an A9L if someone would prefer that. No real reason to do it, but it can be done.

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i read that the cobra ecu doesnt detect WOT for 8 seconds and when you grab a gear that 8 seconds starts all over.

true/false? if true thats crazy....


also how do i figure out what number cobra i have?
 

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coats04 said:
i read that the cobra ecu doesnt detect WOT for 8 seconds and when you grab a gear that 8 seconds starts all over.

true/false? if true thats crazy....


also how do i figure out what number cobra i have?

A tuner i talked with said it doesn't hit max timing for 5 seconds after WOT, maybe that's what you're talking about. And yes if you take your foot off the gas at all for shifting it retards the timing and might start over. As he was telling me all the stuff he was tuning out of my car I could not believe how poorly SN95s are tuned from the factory, it's extremely sad...
 
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sounds like theres alot to tune and detune in the stock ecu.im not using the egr either.
 

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Well, there is a bit of misinformation in this thread that I can hopefully clear up. First off there is an emissions delay in closed loop to open loop in a J4J1 processor, in fact there are two of them, one based on coolant temps and time and one based on RPM and time. The J4J1 indeed has a longer delay than a T4M0 - a 95 GT Computer, but it isn't that much. They ALL have this delay. The person who said 5 seconds was probably misled by looking at the numbers in the software because in SCT software the time to delay OL after the ECT temps have met the criteria for OL, is listed as 8.0 - some people interpret this to mean 8.0 seconds - and if that were the case, a car would probably never get to OL on the dyno. The numbers refer to clock tics of the PCM's crystal (which has a clock speed of 15 Mhz). Looking at it that way, it is not a really long wait at all. The delay is there for emissions. We normally zero these delays out on all tunes we do.

The other thing to consider is that once you get on it in 1st gear, you do transition to OL, and there are delays in the PCM code that delay transition back to CL, so you really do NOT start over when going through the gears. There IS a tip-in timing retard, that we normally get rid of too.

Timing is not based on a 'delay' it's basically based on RPM vs. load - and load is roughly volumetric efficiency. There are a number of things used in final spark calculations as well, so setting a target spak value doesn't necessarily mean that's what you'll get. What would happen when you go through the gears is as RPMs rise, load would normally rise, then when you get out of it to shift or even powershift, RPMs would drop and load would drop a little - and in those circumstances spark would not normally drop, just the opposite, at lower loads and RPMs spark usually is raised.

Hope this helps.

Don
 

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