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<blockquote data-quote="wmfateam" data-source="post: 1414617" data-attributes="member: 18765"><p><u><strong>First question that I need to know= Is this a street/track or Track only car?</strong></u></p><p><u><strong></strong></u></p><p><u><strong>Engine</strong></u>- Stick with Bolt on PI swap. Maybe some cams, but power should be added after brakes, driver mod, suspension and tires (I think that is in order as well).</p><p><strong><u>Suspension</u></strong>- I started on blown stock shocks and struts Autocrossing so I would agree that most things are going to be better than stock. Personally I would go with an MM Starter Box. I have never used Eibach shocks/struts, but I love their springs. But the price of the Eibach kit is very appealing. I would keep you stock sway bars as sway bars are more of a fine tuning mod than a do it first mod. I run no rear sway bar and a Steeda front bar. I replaced my control arms within my first two events as all my bushings were toast (MM lowers and stock uppers). Quad shocks were gone before I got my car so I have no input on those guys except a proper shock will negate the need for them. I still run stock front control arms but with poly bushings. I have Koni SA fronts and custom valved Bilstein rears with coilovers. And if STB means strut tower bar, I would not suggest one as I have never had one on the car and as a new(er) guy you are not going to be be able to run hard enough to either A. Feel it, or B. Need it. I would wait on that until you maybe end up going with a Kmember. A proper seat and harness will go a long way for feeling. My second favorite, maybe first, mod. Raybestos ST43 brake pads being the other possible favorite mod.</p><p><u><strong>Weight</strong></u>- The best thing in road racing is less weight IMO. It makes tires last longer and makes it easier to corner. I have a full cage and mostly gutted weigh 3450 with me(180lbs) and a quarter tank of gas.</p><p>Is there a NASA or SCCA region near you? I run local NASA and ProAutoSports and both have programs for Driver Education, Time Trials and Door to Door racing. And you did not mention brakes. Depending on what you already have, new fluid (I run Stoptech 600 fluid from Tire Rack), pads (depends on caliper, street and track or just track), lifetime warranty rotors from the auto part store (I have exchanged my fronts 4 times this year. I went through high carbon, cryo treated, slotted, etc and found they all crack within about the same time frame) and brake cooling (I have the Kenny Brown kit). I managed to cook my cobra brakes that had Hawk HP+ the second time ever to the track.</p><p></p><p>All that being said. I am a big preacher of take it to the track and feel what needs attention first. But if I were turning my daily into a track car, my mod list, in order would be: <strong>1</strong>-Brakes (Revolution Brake LLC 330mm kit also found on ebay) , Pad street track car Wilwood matrix pad, track only Raybestos ST-43. <strong>2</strong>- Struts/Shocks/Camber Plates/Subframe Connectors. <strong>3</strong>- Roll Bar/Seat/Harness. <strong><u>4-</u></strong>Lower Control Arms(MM Road Race)/UPR Spherical Upper With Spherical diff bushing(1 arm)/Pan Hard Bar, <strong><u>5-</u></strong>Rims/Tires (NT01) <strong><u>6-</u></strong> K-Member and Front control arms (MM). And then depending on how much street comforts you need, remove ac, remove seats, gut hood/trunk, remove windshield wiper fluid bottle, front bash bar(FTR), etc, etc. It really becomes Pandora's box, for me at least. If I wasn't building my Coyote swap car, I would be doing all this to my daily.</p><p></p><p>But is the end, just get to the track. Brakes and struts, shocks, springs are going to be the first thing you need. So don't go running with the idea that you need everything right now. Just see if you want to keep doing this and if there is anything competition wise in your area that you might want to do later.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wmfateam, post: 1414617, member: 18765"] [U][B]First question that I need to know= Is this a street/track or Track only car? Engine[/B][/U]- Stick with Bolt on PI swap. Maybe some cams, but power should be added after brakes, driver mod, suspension and tires (I think that is in order as well). [B][U]Suspension[/U][/B]- I started on blown stock shocks and struts Autocrossing so I would agree that most things are going to be better than stock. Personally I would go with an MM Starter Box. I have never used Eibach shocks/struts, but I love their springs. But the price of the Eibach kit is very appealing. I would keep you stock sway bars as sway bars are more of a fine tuning mod than a do it first mod. I run no rear sway bar and a Steeda front bar. I replaced my control arms within my first two events as all my bushings were toast (MM lowers and stock uppers). Quad shocks were gone before I got my car so I have no input on those guys except a proper shock will negate the need for them. I still run stock front control arms but with poly bushings. I have Koni SA fronts and custom valved Bilstein rears with coilovers. And if STB means strut tower bar, I would not suggest one as I have never had one on the car and as a new(er) guy you are not going to be be able to run hard enough to either A. Feel it, or B. Need it. I would wait on that until you maybe end up going with a Kmember. A proper seat and harness will go a long way for feeling. My second favorite, maybe first, mod. Raybestos ST43 brake pads being the other possible favorite mod. [U][B]Weight[/B][/U]- The best thing in road racing is less weight IMO. It makes tires last longer and makes it easier to corner. I have a full cage and mostly gutted weigh 3450 with me(180lbs) and a quarter tank of gas. Is there a NASA or SCCA region near you? I run local NASA and ProAutoSports and both have programs for Driver Education, Time Trials and Door to Door racing. And you did not mention brakes. Depending on what you already have, new fluid (I run Stoptech 600 fluid from Tire Rack), pads (depends on caliper, street and track or just track), lifetime warranty rotors from the auto part store (I have exchanged my fronts 4 times this year. I went through high carbon, cryo treated, slotted, etc and found they all crack within about the same time frame) and brake cooling (I have the Kenny Brown kit). I managed to cook my cobra brakes that had Hawk HP+ the second time ever to the track. All that being said. I am a big preacher of take it to the track and feel what needs attention first. But if I were turning my daily into a track car, my mod list, in order would be: [B]1[/B]-Brakes (Revolution Brake LLC 330mm kit also found on ebay) , Pad street track car Wilwood matrix pad, track only Raybestos ST-43. [B]2[/B]- Struts/Shocks/Camber Plates/Subframe Connectors. [B]3[/B]- Roll Bar/Seat/Harness. [B][U]4-[/U][/B]Lower Control Arms(MM Road Race)/UPR Spherical Upper With Spherical diff bushing(1 arm)/Pan Hard Bar, [B][U]5-[/U][/B]Rims/Tires (NT01) [B][U]6-[/U][/B] K-Member and Front control arms (MM). And then depending on how much street comforts you need, remove ac, remove seats, gut hood/trunk, remove windshield wiper fluid bottle, front bash bar(FTR), etc, etc. It really becomes Pandora's box, for me at least. If I wasn't building my Coyote swap car, I would be doing all this to my daily. But is the end, just get to the track. Brakes and struts, shocks, springs are going to be the first thing you need. So don't go running with the idea that you need everything right now. Just see if you want to keep doing this and if there is anything competition wise in your area that you might want to do later. [/QUOTE]
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