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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lee12609" data-source="post: 766993" data-attributes="member: 12415">i wasnt talking about mileage, i was talking about symptoms. he made it sound like he just went out there and all of a sudden it wouldnt move, which almost NEVER happens with an AODE/4r70w..... not saying it doesnt, but its very very rare. usually all of them will exhibit some sign of problems before needing a rebuild, and even then alot of times its heat related, or a control problem and not the actual hard parts that failed. problem is most people dont know crap about transmissions and think since there is a problem it needs rebuild, and transmissions shops will tell you it needs rebuilt pretty much no matter what.my car has 200k miles on it, pushing 10+psi, never had a cooler, and the pan was never dropped. it started flaring badly, and didnt want to shift right, very inconsistent and my torque converter clutch was cutting in and out. everybody in person (including shops) and online told me it was time for a rebuild. against advice i dropped the pan, changed the filter, drained the torque converter and refilled with mercon V, and added a cooler, and i've never driven a 94-97 that shifted better. the 98+ have a different valvebody so i wont include them, they all shift great.</blockquote>