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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jrgunn5150" data-source="post: 735427" data-attributes="member: 9682">Second is a seperate part, but if one part is bad, the rest probably isnt far behind.As far as an extra gear, the extra gear goes in between, not on top, here's the ratios.T5 1st: 3.35:1 2nd: 1.99:1 3rd: 1.33:1 4th:1.00:1 5th: 0.68:1 3.15:1 4r70w 1st: 2.84 :1 2nd: 1.55 :1 3rd: 1.00 :1 4th: 0.70 :1 Rev: 2.23 :1You can see OD is almost the same, just the T5 doesnt have such a gap between second and third. Another to remember is torque multiplication through the converter before lockup is roughly 2:1</blockquote>