HELP....hope its not the whole tranny

schacher94gt

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Well my aode has been acting weird lately but shifts flawless still, so i think its the torque converter. Help me out the b/c when it comes to these things i have no clue. First, when I'm crusin and ease in to the peddle the rpms increase and nothing happens and than they drop back down to say 2500 and it takes off. Second, i read where bad torque converters will "whistle" and i def can hear that. So please tell me its that and not have to go through the headache a T5 swap
 

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It sounds like a torque converter, it would be easier to replace the converter and change the fluid than swap to a t5.
 

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well I'm not an Automatic tranny expert, but if your symptoms were happening in a manual trans car, you're clutch would be on your last leg..
So, logic tells me that since your torque converter is the "clutch" for an auto trans, I would agree that your torque converter is ka-putz.
 

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That is a good question, TCI sucks for trannys, i have seen many break with just a couple thousand miles. If you want a rebuilt with a good warranty like 3 year 100k miles jasper engines & trans has a good product that they stand behind very well but it is expensive. but not expensive compared to performance automatics, lentech, art carr or some company along those lines. If you are trying to do it cheap just a standard rebuilt converter for about 250 or so and change fluids.
 

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Alex, you need to stop driving your car, like right now. Park it. Seriously.

If your converter is bad, and it certainly sounds like it, running all the clutch material and metal through your trans is not helping it out at all.
 
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ya its parked been sittin there for awhile. im just waiting for andre at edgeperformance to send it on its way
 
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did the install and put a 2600 stall on it....its still slipping when in OD. Idk if its OD going to hell or if its my computer beggy to be tuned already
 

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I think it is the bands in the tranny maybe the pumps are not clamping them which would cause it to raise in RPM so maybe you need new breack clamps
 

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Fourth gear is the OD band, that's it. There's no actual 4th gear in there. An OD band cost about 20 bucks, p&r labor 3-4 hundred, labor on band, should be 30 bucks. It literally falls out with the servo removed. If your shop is telling you anything else get your car out of there and don't go back

You should be back on the road for about 500, if it's a driver that's what I'd do with the local mom and pop shop.

If you want. Built auto, mine are 1800 plus shipping and converter with lifetime warranty. Other companies are right about in line with me pricewise (excluding the 700 dollar eBay specials of course)

a t5 on average will run about 800 to 1200 to swap in.

Of course shopping around helps and you can always find some douchenwho got a tremec for a bag of popcorn lol but these are pretty realistic prices I ballparked.
 
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they definatley want to do a rebuilt on it bc they said 2nd felt like it slipped to....i like the auto bc its conveinent and i could do the swap with less pain. but id love and extra gear w my 4.10s for traveling
 

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Second is a seperate part, but if one part is bad, the rest probably isnt far behind.

As far as an extra gear, the extra gear goes in between, not on top, here's the ratios.

T5 1st: 3.35:1 2nd: 1.99:1 3rd: 1.33:1 4th:1.00:1 5th: 0.68:1 3.15:1

4r70w 1st: 2.84 :1 2nd: 1.55 :1 3rd: 1.00 :1 4th: 0.70 :1 Rev: 2.23 :1


You can see OD is almost the same, just the T5 doesnt have such a gap between second and third. Another to remember is torque multiplication through the converter before lockup is roughly 2:1
 

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