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[mike97gt]

it should be the same as bleeding a regular car.. maybe just have to add more fluid. i'm assuming by hydroboost its using vacuum/atmosphere pressure?

worn rotors would just produce brake fade faster as they are thinner and and will heat up faster.

try a fluid flush. whens that last time that it was done?

 

[reivaxtorres]

it should be the same as bleeding a regular car.. maybe just have to add more fluid. i'm assuming by hydroboost its using vacuum/atmosphere pressure?

worn rotors would just produce brake fade faster as they are thinner and and will heat up faster.

try a fluid flush. whens that last time that it was done?

are you talking about how the hydroboost system works? if so.....

the hydroboost system does the same thing the regular vacuum booster does, except it works off of the power steering pump fluid/pressure instead of vacuum. reason ford decided to do it this way in our cars is very simple: because there was no room in the engine bay for the regular vacuum booster and the 4.6L.


if thats not what you were talking about....ignore me

 

[mike97gt]

ohhh.. i was thinking it was a hydrovac system.. not hydraulic over hydraulic.
either way it should be the same to bleed. (i've never done it myself but from what i know it should be that way)

 

[voidfinger]

well you can bleed and bleed and bleed and sometimes not get any pedal effort at all. I think there might be some air trapped somewhere inside so i was wanting one of those pumps to MAKE sure three isn't lol.

 

[AaRoN]

it should be the same as bleeding a regular car.. maybe just have to add more fluid. i'm assuming by hydroboost its using vacuum/atmosphere pressure?

worn rotors would just produce brake fade faster as they are thinner and and will heat up faster.

try a fluid flush. whens that last time that it was done?

are you talking about how the hydroboost system works? if so.....

the hydroboost system does the same thing the regular vacuum booster does, except it works off of the power steering pump fluid/pressure instead of vacuum. reason ford decided to do it this way in our cars is very simple: because there was no room in the engine bay for the regular vacuum booster and the 4.6L.


if thats not what you were talking about....ignore me

Actually, it's more because the 4.6L doesn't produce sufficient vacuum to run a normal brake booster.

 

[reivaxtorres]

ohhh.. i was thinking it was a hydrovac system.. not hydraulic over hydraulic.
either way it should be the same to bleed. (i've never done it myself but from what i know it should be that way)

yeah, bleeding the brake system on our cars is the same as any other car, nothing special about it. on 96-98 hydraboost systems, you can bleed the hydraboost (which is very, very rare when you need to do that) using a vacuum pump and the bleeder screw on top of the hydraboost system. on 99+ cars (im pretty sure its 99, might be later on, maybe 01 and higher) the hydraboost system is sealed, no bleeder screw on top.

 

[reivaxtorres]

it should be the same as bleeding a regular car.. maybe just have to add more fluid. i'm assuming by hydroboost its using vacuum/atmosphere pressure?

worn rotors would just produce brake fade faster as they are thinner and and will heat up faster.

try a fluid flush. whens that last time that it was done?

are you talking about how the hydroboost system works? if so.....

the hydroboost system does the same thing the regular vacuum booster does, except it works off of the power steering pump fluid/pressure instead of vacuum. reason ford decided to do it this way in our cars is very simple: because there was no room in the engine bay for the regular vacuum booster and the 4.6L.


if thats not what you were talking about....ignore me

Actually, it's more because the 4.6L doesn't produce sufficient vacuum to run a normal brake booster.

doesnt the 4.6L 3v produce the same amount of vacuum as the 4.6L 2v and 4v? because they have the regular vacuum booster....doubt ford would use it if there wasnt enough vacuum being produced to allow it to work

 

[AaRoN]

it should be the same as bleeding a regular car.. maybe just have to add more fluid. i'm assuming by hydroboost its using vacuum/atmosphere pressure?

worn rotors would just produce brake fade faster as they are thinner and and will heat up faster.

try a fluid flush. whens that last time that it was done?

are you talking about how the hydroboost system works? if so.....

the hydroboost system does the same thing the regular vacuum booster does, except it works off of the power steering pump fluid/pressure instead of vacuum. reason ford decided to do it this way in our cars is very simple: because there was no room in the engine bay for the regular vacuum booster and the 4.6L.


if thats not what you were talking about....ignore me

Actually, it's more because the 4.6L doesn't produce sufficient vacuum to run a normal brake booster.

doesnt the 4.6L 3v produce the same amount of vacuum as the 4.6L 2v and 4v? because they have the regular vacuum booster....doubt ford would use it if there wasnt enough vacuum being produced to allow it to work

I think, don't quote me, the 3v's and 4v's produce enough vacuum to run a regular booster.

 

[reivaxtorres]

it should be the same as bleeding a regular car.. maybe just have to add more fluid. i'm assuming by hydroboost its using vacuum/atmosphere pressure?

worn rotors would just produce brake fade faster as they are thinner and and will heat up faster.

try a fluid flush. whens that last time that it was done?

are you talking about how the hydroboost system works? if so.....

the hydroboost system does the same thing the regular vacuum booster does, except it works off of the power steering pump fluid/pressure instead of vacuum. reason ford decided to do it this way in our cars is very simple: because there was no room in the engine bay for the regular vacuum booster and the 4.6L.


if thats not what you were talking about....ignore me

Actually, it's more because the 4.6L doesn't produce sufficient vacuum to run a normal brake booster.

doesnt the 4.6L 3v produce the same amount of vacuum as the 4.6L 2v and 4v? because they have the regular vacuum booster....doubt ford would use it if there wasnt enough vacuum being produced to allow it to work

I think, don't quote me, the 3v's and 4v's produce enough vacuum to run a regular booster.

yeah, same here, i dont know how much vacuum either produce, but i thought all 4.6L produced the same amount.



EDIT: i just remembered something. my f150 has the 2v 4.6, and it has a vacuum booster. :dunno:

 

[AaRoN]

it should be the same as bleeding a regular car.. maybe just have to add more fluid. i'm assuming by hydroboost its using vacuum/atmosphere pressure?

worn rotors would just produce brake fade faster as they are thinner and and will heat up faster.

try a fluid flush. whens that last time that it was done?

are you talking about how the hydroboost system works? if so.....

the hydroboost system does the same thing the regular vacuum booster does, except it works off of the power steering pump fluid/pressure instead of vacuum. reason ford decided to do it this way in our cars is very simple: because there was no room in the engine bay for the regular vacuum booster and the 4.6L.


if thats not what you were talking about....ignore me

Actually, it's more because the 4.6L doesn't produce sufficient vacuum to run a normal brake booster.

doesnt the 4.6L 3v produce the same amount of vacuum as the 4.6L 2v and 4v? because they have the regular vacuum booster....doubt ford would use it if there wasnt enough vacuum being produced to allow it to work

I think, don't quote me, the 3v's and 4v's produce enough vacuum to run a regular booster.

yeah, same here, i dont know how much vacuum either produce, but i thought all 4.6L produced the same amount.

Could be. I'm not completely sure about the 3v's and 4v's. I do know that the main reason for the Bendix hydroboost brake booster is because of the lack of sufficient vacuum that our 2v's produce.

 

[reivaxtorres]

Could be. I'm not completely sure about the 3v's and 4v's. I do know that the main reason for the Bendix hydroboost brake booster is because of the lack of sufficient vacuum that our 2v's produce.

well, no offense, but im still gonna go against you on this one. i edited my earlier post, not sure if saw that or not, but i mentioned that my 2v 4.6L truck has the vacuum booster, not the hydraboost system, which leads me to believe that the 2v can produce enough vacuum to run the brake booster, and the reason we (sn95 4.6L cars) got the hydraboost was because of lack of engine bay room

 

[AaRoN]

Could be. I'm not completely sure about the 3v's and 4v's. I do know that the main reason for the Bendix hydroboost brake booster is because of the lack of sufficient vacuum that our 2v's produce.

well, no offense, but im still gonna go against you on this one. i edited my earlier post, not sure if saw that or not, but i mentioned that my 2v 4.6L truck has the vacuum booster, not the hydraboost system, which leads me to believe that the 2v can produce enough vacuum to run the brake booster, and the reason we (sn95 4.6L cars) got the hydraboost was because of lack of engine bay room

Hmmm..that's an interesting point. They teached me wrong I guess :crazy2:

 

[reivaxtorres]

Could be. I'm not completely sure about the 3v's and 4v's. I do know that the main reason for the Bendix hydroboost brake booster is because of the lack of sufficient vacuum that our 2v's produce.

well, no offense, but im still gonna go against you on this one. i edited my earlier post, not sure if saw that or not, but i mentioned that my 2v 4.6L truck has the vacuum booster, not the hydraboost system, which leads me to believe that the 2v can produce enough vacuum to run the brake booster, and the reason we (sn95 4.6L cars) got the hydraboost was because of lack of engine bay room

Hmmm..that's an interesting point. They teached me wrong I guess :crazy2:

could be, or it could also be that the truck version of the 2v 4.6 is different than our version tho, but i dont think it is.... :dunno:

 

[AaRoN]

I'm gonna have to do some research cause that seems strange to me :dunno:

Why would Ford (or any car company for that matter) have a unique brake booster built just to save room? Seems like they would've figured something else out to save on costs. And only use it on the Mustang. It seems like they'd use it on all 4.6L's. Right?

I don't know. Maybe I'm overthinking it or not thinking about it enough. Gotta baby on the way tomorrow so I'm really giddy.. :crazy2:

 

[Red96GT]

So the 03 cobra and mach one kit (same except for fancy caliper paint right?) comes with 13" plain faced rotors? I was thinking about just getting the calipers and stainless lines, then buying 13" drilled and slotted rotors. Does anyone have any good recommendations for aftermarket rotors? Also, do the twin piston calipers bolt right onto the factory caliper brackets?

 

[AaRoN]

Check out this link I just found. It's towards the bottom.

http://www.autozone.com/az/cds/en_u...900823d801de02f/repairInfoPages.htm#hd1-1-2-2

 

[AaRoN]

So the 03 cobra and mach one kit (same except for fancy caliper paint right?) comes with 13" plain faced rotors? I was thinking about just getting the calipers and stainless lines, then buying 13" drilled and slotted rotors. Does anyone have any good recommendations for aftermarket rotors? Also, do the twin piston calipers bolt right onto the factory caliper brackets?

Yeah the 03/04 Cobra and Mach 1 brakes are the same.

Brembo
SSBC
Wilwood
Baer

The twin piston (I believe) bolt right up.

 

[reivaxtorres]

I'm gonna have to do some research cause that seems strange to me :dunno:

Why would Ford (or any car company for that matter) have a unique brake booster built just to save room? Seems like they would've figured something else out to save on costs. And only use it on the Mustang. It seems like they'd use it on all 4.6L's. Right?

I don't know. Maybe I'm overthinking it or not thinking about it enough. Gotta baby on the way tomorrow so I'm really giddy.. :crazy2:

eh, not quite either. Ford isnt the only one to use the hydraboost system, i know GM uses it on a few of their cars as well, and i know ford uses it (or at least used to anyways) on its super duty series. i know custom car makers (hot rod guys) often use the hydraboost system because its smaller and saves room

and no, the hyrdaboost system is more expensive and complicated than the regular vacuum booster, so looking at it from a cost standpoint, it wouldnt make sense for ford to use it if it really didnt need to use it.

 

[AaRoN]

Good points :thumb:

 

[reivaxtorres]

So the 03 cobra and mach one kit (same except for fancy caliper paint right?) comes with 13" plain faced rotors? I was thinking about just getting the calipers and stainless lines, then buying 13" drilled and slotted rotors. Does anyone have any good recommendations for aftermarket rotors? Also, do the twin piston calipers bolt right onto the factory caliper brackets?

yeah, they are the same. i would recomend you get slotted rotors only. the slotted/drilled ones have a tendancy to crack, plus they offer less surface area for the pads to make contact and can actually reduce braking effectiveness.
for rotors, i would recomend you go with powerslot slotted rotors.

and as for the factory caliper brackets, yeah, the cobra ones bolt right up to the spindles in the same way your stock brakes do.

Check out this link I just found. It's towards the bottom.

http://www.autozone.com/az/cds/en_u...900823d801de02f/repairInfoPages.htm#hd1-1-2-2

what am i looking for here? i just read the hydraboost section