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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ttocs" data-source="post: 1503246" data-attributes="member: 11896">I think we are talking about two different things here at least in my mind.  China makes LOTS of good stuff lets not kid ourselves.   When they want to make something good, they do but when they want to knock off another brand from my experience they will put some good effort into making it look real or look good, but if you look inside you will see the difference.I can't find the video I saw once that showed the OEM belt vs an knock off and just in a belt you could see the difference in quality.  The boxes looked fairly legit but when you put the actual products next to each other you could see the difference.</blockquote>