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Message: <blockquote data-quote="justinschmidt1" data-source="post: 358056" data-attributes="member: 8889">right...I think you underate them...theres no way your jeep wrangler is faster than a npi gt...you beat the DRIVER, not the car.Im wondering where you get 5k to bring them to snuff?hell, you could spend less than 3k on a used bloweryou could do a full pi swap for 1,000 if you do the work and have a high 13 second car.you could spray it for 1,000 and again.You cant compare a 15 yr old car to a 2007 civic si.why not compare an older civic si around the range of when a npi gt was made?99 civic si was rated at 160 hp and 111 ft lb or something like that...probably ran 16s.you talk about the npi being so bad but take a look at the PI gts...they need to watch out for the 3.5 altimas,maximas, and the 3.5 accords just like the npis do.Why cant npis race from a roll?my slow auto npi head and npi cams car traps 102 so Im pretty good when it comes to roll racing.</blockquote>