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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jrgunn5150" data-source="post: 358064" data-attributes="member: 9682">The driver wasn't running next to me in the other lane... I'm sure he was perfectly average, you seem to forget, I bought mine new, I know what they do.I don't compare them to then, because this isn't then, this is now. Civic Si's with 200 hp are rather common, as are Hemi Charger's, LS1's, 3v GT's, etc. If you can't run a mid 12, you can't hang with the cool kids, period.I get 5k minimum, since you seem to be forgetting, tuning, suspsension, tires, gear's, and all the other little tidbit's that go with it. As for spraying again and again, it'll be 40 dollar's everytime you fill the bottle.So you're good when it comes to roll racing, it's a non point, you miss the point that these little FWD rocket's don't need to be good at roll racing, they just mash it and go.Not to mention, picking on Civics and Altima's and whatnot in your big bad V8 car makes you look silly. Again, mid 12, if you want to be ahead of the game, that's the number.</blockquote>