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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ReplicaR" data-source="post: 914710" data-attributes="member: 9209">First and foremost, I would like to say that I do not condone canyon carving. It is irresponsible, dangerous, and illegal.Secondly, there is no such thing as good canyon setup. Speaking from experience, for the most part, in canyons you are overdriving the tires in every single turn. You don't really have space to setup the corner properly, hit the right apex every time, and there are way too many variables which take away from consistency. You may think that you are driving at the limit, but the reality is that you are probably not very close to it, because you are learning some bad habits which would hurt your speed at the track. I've instructed a few guys who go "canyon carving" and absolutely all of them were slow at the beginning overworking the car and tires. A couple of my friends who regularly "carved canyons" also brought out their car to the track. Their setup was so far off, it was not even funny. One of them had to disconnect the rear sway bar all together just to manage the car from oversteering, not to mention that they all had terrible body roll. Third, if you really want to know what your next mod should be, go to the track. I'm going to guess that you are somewhere in SoCal, since that's where most "canyon carving" happens. We are blessed with 3 different race tracks (and a shit load of configurations) with in driving range, and not to take advantage of that is just foolish. At the track, you can safely get to the real limit of the car, not what you are feeling on the street. Only then you will be able to feel what is the next logical step in modifying suspension.</blockquote>