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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ttocs" data-source="post: 926717" data-attributes="member: 11896">When my motor went, after being upside down from the heads as much as I would have loved to put a new motor back in it(Who wouldn't right) but I could not afford it so I settled for a rebuilt motor because it was cheaper.  Why was it cheaper?  Its used, any mechanical device is only going to turn so many times before something gives out in it.  Refreshing seals and bearings will certainly help it last longer but is it really as good as a new one?  hell no which is why its cheaper....  If after refreshing them all things were equal, wouldn't the price be too?  Wouldn't vortex buy them back, refresh them and then charge a premium for a factory refreshed unit?  I agree with your first post that they are precision made when the are new and shiney and that they would explode in no time if they were not.  This is no different for the refreshed ones, they are just a little less precise then a new one more often then not.  You make it sound as though vortex sprinkles some fairy dust on it and viola, perfectly new again!  I am more of a realist that thinks there are probably just as many(if not more) bad sellers then good ones that will of course tell you they didn't romp on it, hardly drove it and it only has 10k miles on it when its just not the case.  Take that into account and then ask yourself what could happen if it does grenade?  Can I end up loosing my motor too, yes.  With all that added up when/if I ever go forced induction I will go for no less then new pieces just like I just did on my heads.  I hope yours continues for years with good service.  With a new product I expect that, with a used/refreshed one all you can do is hope for it to keep working....</blockquote>