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Message: <blockquote data-quote="95PGTTech" data-source="post: 686368" data-attributes="member: 9525">Re: In Response to Javi's Post....the only way to make money these days as a tech is to know what is, and what is not a "gravy" job. the jobs that you can accomplish reasonably in less than the given quoted time standard. A brake job, for example, is one of the very very few "gravy" jobs left remaining (they constantly cut time standards as they figure out we have new tricks).or, do as I did. understand you are slow, and specialize. do something that not everyone can. that way, when you say you need extra time on a job, they don't really have a choice. who else are they going to give it to? hopefully, with enough time, you even start coming close to the time standards within your specialty. at ford I was driveability/base engine/diesel. I'm handy with electrical and manual trans, but there was a trans guy and an electrical guy. in the aftermarket here, I'm driveability/base engine. when it's got a check engine light, or when it gets towed in and don't run, it's my problem. the crap everyone else runs for the hills from.some jobs I make time, some jobs I lose time. in the end, I end up with about 60 hours a week being in the building 40 hours, and even when it's completely dead I still have work because, as mentioned, I'm the only one willing to touch stuff like this.my suggestion to anyone is keep working on cars as a hobby, for fun. when you get into this professionally, it for the most part ruins your fun with cars. I really have to WILL myself to go to my garage on my day off. It doesn't help that it's not at my house here and I can't just walk out in my slippers. but the last thing any tech wants to do on his day off is work on a car. especially if it's not a side job and I'm not making cash. this is a miserable, thankless, terrible benefits, no respect industry that I've been stuck in since I was 12.</blockquote>