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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rew729" data-source="post: 1426286" data-attributes="member: 18902">I understand factory timing is 10 BTC and optimal timing on stock motor is ~14-16 BTCWith my spout connector removed, timing appears to be just shy of 10 BTC. However, when the spout is connected the PCM seems to be adjusting timing to 20+ BTC (at least at idle). Is that normal behavior? Should it be running that kind of timing at idle?With the connector removed the car runs great. It does seem a little down on power but I can at least use the full rev range now. With the connector plugged in I would always short shift at 3500-4000 due to excessive pinging.I have not tried to adjust my timing yet but I am wondering if it will help or if there is something else wrong.</blockquote>