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Message: <blockquote data-quote="01yellercobra" data-source="post: 1456791" data-attributes="member: 22466">FWIW, I cleared 600hp with cats. I'm probably close to it again with those same cats. From what I've seen/read there isn't much power difference between good high flow cats and an O/R pipe. This one might be worth letting your wallet decide. But don't forget cats muffle as well. When my old cats blew out I essentially had an O/R pipe with Stingers. Way too loud for me so I installed new cats. Plus I'm not a fan of the fuel smell anymore. But then a buddy has an O/R X pipe with full Magnaflow mufflers and it's pretty tame.</blockquote>