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Message: <blockquote data-quote="95PGTTech" data-source="post: 593484" data-attributes="member: 9525">You didn't answer my question, you just beat around the bush.It depends on what he wants to do with the car. Chevy swaps aren't end-all-be-all, it's completely unnecessary for his intended use of the car and his desires.I, on the other hand, am into competitive road racing, and I want to get into wheel-to-wheel, and I want to WIN. So I'll make you a deal...since you find chevy motors so lame, you find me a motor that isn't lame, but it needs to fit the following characteristics:1. it needs to weigh 200lbs. less than my 4.6 4V fully dressed2. it needs to make 450HP/400TQ, and it needs to make that torque from 3000rpm-6000rpm3. it needs to be 9000rpm capable4. it needs to be able to hold up to (at minimum) 4 events without refreshing.5. it needs to be more easily serviced than my current 4.6 4V6. parts for it need to be widely available for basic replacements (gaskets, etc.) at local AAP, Autozone, etc.You find me a motor, any motor, that fits that bill, that you don't find "lame" and you let me know. By the way, the class has already proven 351 based stuff fails number 1, and 302 based stuff fails number 4 when it makes number 3, and vice versa. Production blocks only, btw. The kings of the class used to actually be 4.6 2Vs because of the massive torque under the curve they produce and their less weight compared to the 4V...now everybody up front is SBC based, LSx or otherwise.When you drive a street car like you do, you have choices. You can have preferences, you can do things 90%. You can modify your car to go faster, but keep your A/C to be comfortable. You can put some springs in the car to low it, and look cool, and handle a little better, without going so stupid high with the rates every bump is a trip to the chiropractor. When you make the choice to race the car, seriously, and you want to win, you lose choices. You lose bang/buck, you lose a lot of cool, a lot of comfortable, a lot of good looking brand new car factor, and sometimes a lot of fun.I'm done preaching. The only people's opinion I care about is the guys I'm racing against, and they understand the mentality. They've all made sacrifices they probably didn't want to make - I'm not excited about taking a car I love and cutting the door shells out. But winning is winning, nothing else matters - especially stupid kids from LA who are never going to see a racetrack calling you lame.</blockquote>