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<blockquote data-quote="Hopelessly-Devoted" data-source="post: 1572658" data-attributes="member: 28907"><p>Sorry for the long delay, been busy going back and forth between two places.</p><p>Well, the good news is, I know what is wrong with the 302. The bad news is, I know what's wrong with the 302. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /> In terms of space travel, I have had what would be described as an "Unscheduled Rapid Disassembly" of piston #3. I will try to get a picture or two posted here for every ones enjoyment. I had a mechanic friend of mine come by with a scope to look in through the spark plug opening and that's when we found the damage. There are a couple good size nicks on the cylinder wall which "maybe" could be machined or at worst I would have to have it sleeved. At this point, I think it's time to drop in the 351.</p><p></p><p>I know I started this thread asking about intakes and what every ones thoughts were on them. Now I have other questions about other parts I still need to acquire and was hoping folks here could either share their thoughts/experiences or point me in the right direction to other posts that they are aware of that may answer my questions. I have a pretty good idea of what can and cannot be swapped between the 302 & 351 and am working on putting together my list of what I still need. </p><p></p><p>What I am wondering about are these things.. to start with:</p><p>1. Keep the Holley Terminator or go with the Holley Sniper? I have one of each already so it comes down to this...</p><p> a. I have a square bore 4 bbl 351 intake that the Sniper can go on to. (it's an Edelbrock Performer I think, dual plane)</p><p> b. The Sniper setup takes up a lot less real estate</p><p> i. Requires a different throttle cable which I already have and I probably lose having cruise control.</p><p> ii. Will need to figure out the wiring (i.e. how much is the same/reusable from the Terminator, how much is new for the Sniper).</p><p> c. If I keep the Terminator I need a new intake that has injector bosses (pre-machined or I'll have to get them machined).</p><p> d. I will need additional parts to connect the throttle body like an, intake elbow and possibly a spacer to clear the valve covers.</p><p> e. Will need to reprogram the Terminator to the new engine, or find a tuner nearby and have it towed there.</p><p> f. All the wiring is already done for the Terminator. </p><p>2. What distributor? I am guessing that the same one works for either fuel delivery setup Term or Sniper.</p><p>3. Heads? I had AFR 185 Renegade's (#1422) 58cc heads, but one I don't think will be salvageable. Found a new set of AFR 190 Enforcer 64cc heads for just under $1500. To replace the 185's is almost $2400. Seems like a no brainer, but...</p><p>4. Cam shaft? No clue. I want streetability/driveability but I also want power. </p><p>5. Roller or Hydraulic flat tappet? Block is a 1974, so it's a non-roller. </p><p> a. Roller = new dizzy gear and special lifters</p><p> b. Flat tappet = nothing special</p><p></p><p>If anyone is interested or knows someone who is interested in a tubular GT40 upper and lower intake for a 302 let me know, I don't think I'll be re-using the one I have.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hopelessly-Devoted, post: 1572658, member: 28907"] Sorry for the long delay, been busy going back and forth between two places. Well, the good news is, I know what is wrong with the 302. The bad news is, I know what's wrong with the 302. :( In terms of space travel, I have had what would be described as an "Unscheduled Rapid Disassembly" of piston #3. I will try to get a picture or two posted here for every ones enjoyment. I had a mechanic friend of mine come by with a scope to look in through the spark plug opening and that's when we found the damage. There are a couple good size nicks on the cylinder wall which "maybe" could be machined or at worst I would have to have it sleeved. At this point, I think it's time to drop in the 351. I know I started this thread asking about intakes and what every ones thoughts were on them. Now I have other questions about other parts I still need to acquire and was hoping folks here could either share their thoughts/experiences or point me in the right direction to other posts that they are aware of that may answer my questions. I have a pretty good idea of what can and cannot be swapped between the 302 & 351 and am working on putting together my list of what I still need. What I am wondering about are these things.. to start with: 1. Keep the Holley Terminator or go with the Holley Sniper? I have one of each already so it comes down to this... a. I have a square bore 4 bbl 351 intake that the Sniper can go on to. (it's an Edelbrock Performer I think, dual plane) b. The Sniper setup takes up a lot less real estate i. Requires a different throttle cable which I already have and I probably lose having cruise control. ii. Will need to figure out the wiring (i.e. how much is the same/reusable from the Terminator, how much is new for the Sniper). c. If I keep the Terminator I need a new intake that has injector bosses (pre-machined or I'll have to get them machined). d. I will need additional parts to connect the throttle body like an, intake elbow and possibly a spacer to clear the valve covers. e. Will need to reprogram the Terminator to the new engine, or find a tuner nearby and have it towed there. f. All the wiring is already done for the Terminator. 2. What distributor? I am guessing that the same one works for either fuel delivery setup Term or Sniper. 3. Heads? I had AFR 185 Renegade's (#1422) 58cc heads, but one I don't think will be salvageable. Found a new set of AFR 190 Enforcer 64cc heads for just under $1500. To replace the 185's is almost $2400. Seems like a no brainer, but... 4. Cam shaft? No clue. I want streetability/driveability but I also want power. 5. Roller or Hydraulic flat tappet? Block is a 1974, so it's a non-roller. a. Roller = new dizzy gear and special lifters b. Flat tappet = nothing special If anyone is interested or knows someone who is interested in a tubular GT40 upper and lower intake for a 302 let me know, I don't think I'll be re-using the one I have. [/QUOTE]
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