A little help with track times...

[justinschmidt1]

Ive made 55 runs between my 95 GT and my 94 Cobra. 33 last summer w/ the Cobra. Ive never broken anything, your not at the power level (running low 14's high 13's ) to break anything. About the only thing you can do is power shift the T5 b/c they dont like that very much.

If I was at 14.1 (justin) it would drive me insane until I got 13's I just wouldn't be able to let it go until I did it. I was stuck at 13.3 and 13.1 much of last summer towards the end and 12's were eating away at me so bad I went out and up graded the rear end to 31 spline axles threw in some 3.73's and ran Micky Tompson ET Streets and then I got my 12's . That was my whole goal the entire summer and on my last night at the track I got it. I duno I guess were just different but I couldn't be that close to the next level and not care to get to it. You have made the point a few times of not really caring to go fast at the track or dont care much about getting 13's so Im just confused on why you want to get a supercharger?

I care...but I dont care enough to spend a bunch of money on a set of drag rims/slicks.

I like having a fast street car...the track is cool but its not a big deal to me if I run 14.1...rather than running 13.7 or w/e

I know the car is capable of 13s with some tires.

 

[Paul]

Thats b/c your 60' time was lower.

He said that he was consistently 1.90 - 2.0, so not really.

About the only thing you can do is power shift the T5 b/c they dont like that very much.

That is precisely what I'm trying not to break.


I have plenty of other cars to abuse, and don't feel a need to abuse my poor unsuspecting DD.

Paul.

 

[Venom351R]

I care...but I dont care enough to spend a bunch of money on a set of drag rims/slicks.

I like having a fast street car...the track is cool but its not a big deal to me if I run 14.1...rather than running 13.7 or w/e

I know the car is capable of 13s with some tires.

Drag rims + a set of DR's for the track will run you about $600. Supercharger is easly $3,000 + the install so thats why I was confused. But I take it that you just want a fast street car but are not as concerned as much for the track aspect?

 

[Venom351R]

He said that he was consistently 1.90 - 2.0, so not really.

In justins sig his best ET is 14.1 @102 with a 2.25 60' time. Your best time as posted is a 13.993 @ 96.277 mph with a 1.996 60' time. You ran a faster time with a slower MPH I said that was due to the fact that you ran a better 60' time. Both of you can easily have 13.8's 13.7's with better 60' times.

 

[justinschmidt1]

lol...

I care...but I dont care enough to spend a bunch of money on a set of drag rims/slicks.

I like having a fast street car...the track is cool but its not a big deal to me if I run 14.1...rather than running 13.7 or w/e

I know the car is capable of 13s with some tires.

Drag rims + a set of DR's for the track will run you about $600. Supercharger is easly $3,000 + the install so thats why I was confused. But I take it that you just want a fast street car but are not as concerned as much for the track aspect?

Thats it...not so concerned with the track times.

A set of welds/rims is like 1k+

I ran a 14.2 @ 98 mph with a 2.1 60 foot time..thats a better comparison to his..this was before the o/r pipe and some weight reduction.


his 13.99 would be more like 14.2 if he had a 2.1 60 foot

5.0s generally will run about the same times with less trap speed than a 4.6..usually 2-3 mph

 

[Venom351R]

sorry justin but a set of weld rims are not $1,000 + My weld Pro Stars were less then $400 for the set.

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=WLD-96-58278&N=700+115&autoview=sku


When it comes to who's car was faster you ran a faster MPH but when someone else runs a lower ET thats what really matters. I see in NHRA drag racing when someone will run a faster MPH but still lose the race b/c what really matters is the ET and one thing that really effects the ET is the 60' time. The lower the 60' the faster you can run the 1/4 with less of a top end MPH. Your right his 13.99 would have been a 14.1 or 14.2 if his 60' time was a 2.1 but his 60' time was lower then that so he ran a faster time.

 

[justinschmidt1]

sorry justin but a set of weld rims are not $1,000 + My weld Pro Stars were less then $400 for the set.

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=WLD-96-58278&N=700+115&autoview=sku


When it comes to who's car was faster you ran a faster MPH but when someone else runs a lower ET thats what really matters. I see in NHRA drag racing when someone will run a faster MPH but still lose the race b/c what really matters is the ET and one thing that really effects the ET is the 60' time. The lower the 60' the faster you can run the 1/4 with less of a top end MPH. Your right his 13.99 would have been a 14.1 or 14.2 if his 60' time was a 2.1 but his 60' time was lower then that so he ran a faster time.

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less than 400 if you buy two 15x8 rims with no tires.

I was talking with tires and the front skinnies...its gotta be close to 1k

 

[xsoutherngun89x]

you dont need skinnies to go fast, all that matters is that you have the rear drag radials, if you arent seriously crazy about running fast at the track then you dont need skinnies up front. what he is talking about is getting you rears to change to when u get to the track. :thumb:

 

[justinschmidt1]

you dont need skinnies to go fast, all that matters is that you have the rear drag radials, if you arent seriously crazy about running fast at the track then you dont need skinnies up front. what he is talking about is getting you rears to change to when u get to the track. :thumb:

even then, the rear wheels and slicks are like 700 bucks if you buy them new

 

[xsoutherngun89x]

you dont need drag wheels, any set of stock waffles can be good for a drag radial. its the tire you need, not the wheel

 

[justinschmidt1]

you dont need drag wheels, any set of stock waffles can be good for a drag radial. its the tire you need, not the wheel

WTF is a waffle haha.

 

[Venom351R]

waffle is the stock 94/95 GT wheels. The main reason for getting drag wheels is the weight factor b/c they are SOOOO light. But running a smaller size stock rim such as a 15 or 16 rim will suffice. Skinnies are not something Im doing at this time either, only a last resort if Im knocking on the door of 11's but cant get it that is if my mods I have planned for this year even get me close to 11's or not its yet to be seen.

If you were to get a set of stock 15 or 16 rims (people sell them all the time when the upgrade wheels) and a set of DR's it would not set you back that far. Im not trying to convince you to do it b/c you said you dont care as much about the track Im just trying to make the point thats it does not have to be as expensive as your making it out to be.

 

[justinschmidt1]

waffle is the stock 94/95 GT wheels. The main reason for getting drag wheels is the weight factor b/c they are SOOOO light. But running a smaller size stock rim such as a 15 or 16 rim will suffice. Skinnies are not something Im doing at this time either, only a last resort if Im knocking on the door of 11's but cant get it that is if my mods I have planned for this year even get me close to 11's or not its yet to be seen.

If you were to get a set of stock 15 or 16 rims (people sell them all the time when the upgrade wheels) and a set of DR's it would not set you back that far. Im not trying to convince you to do it b/c you said you dont care as much about the track Im just trying to make the point thats it does not have to be as expensive as your making it out to be.

yea, I would like to get a set of them...how much do they weigh?

 

[xsoutherngun89x]

mine dont weigh too much. never weighed em but they arent bad. hell you can pick up a set dirt cheap if you look on ebay of browse classifieds

 

[justinschmidt1]

18x10.5 03 cobra rim with 335 on it has got to weigh like 75 pounds haha

this rim is so damn heavy

 

[Paul]

My car runs 13s because I have the original cargo net in the trunk. That makes my shit FaST yO!!

 

[justinschmidt1]

My car runs 13s because I have the original cargo net in the trunk. That makes my shit FaST yO!!

true dat

 

[Venom351R]

18x10.5 03 cobra rim with 335 on it has got to weigh like 75 pounds haha

this rim is so damn heavy

haha yeah those would be thats why you look for a 15 or 16 rim 18X10.5's are HUGE!!

 

[cepowers18]

Are you powershifting? My '95 runs 13.99s with less stuff than what you've got. It's a 100% full-weight '95 GT, completely stock suspension, stock clutch, full tank of gas, and 275/40/17 Nitto DRs. Modifications are 3.73 gears, exhaust, CAI, shifter, 70mm TB, and Edelbrock intake. 134,000 miles, broken rear swaybar, burns oil, leaks oil, and I think it even burns a little coolant.

Last time I was at the track, I only made three passes:

1st: (I don't know why my first run is always the best)
R/T .185
60' 2.001
ET 13.988 @ 97.181 mph

2nd:
R/T .187
60' 2.006
ET 14.152 @ 96.127 (I think I over-revved first on this run)

3rd:
R/T .006
60' 1.995
ET 13.993 @ 96.277 mph

I would definitely try shifting a few hundred RPMs higher. Try 53-5400 - I think that may help your times a bit. Make one change at a time and see what works best for you.

Paul.

Thanks for the advice, Paul. To answer your question, no... I am not power shifting... I'm granny shifting for now. Next time I go to the track, I'll try shifting a little bit higher and see what happens. I can power shift 1st-2nd and 3rd-4th (slightly inconsistently) but I can't 2nd-3rd. Guess I should work on that.

To answer everyone else's question, I'm not worried about getting my 60' time down any further right now. I'm cutting 1.9-2.0 on street tires and I'm obviously not complaining. I just put 17" chrome Saleen replicas on the car with Yokohama S-drives. Haven't run it at the track with the new tires, but I'm anxious to see how it does b/c they're nice tires. Drag radials will be in the future and will be a separate set of tires/rims so I can run on my current setup on the street.

All I was really asking is, as my car sits right now, what should I do differently to better my times? Should I be shifting higher? Should I power shift? Do my times seem about right for my setup?

 

[cepowers18]

Btw, I also have an aluminum driveshaft