can i turn off pats with an aftermarket handheld?

[EastBayStang98]

ok well my car wont start cuz of the pats getting activated, my questions is can i disactivate it with an aftermarket handheld like sct or diablosport? the dealer wants 200 for just diagnosing the problem and not to mention getting the car towed, so im trying not to go to the dealer...i need help please everytime i post something i never get replies...

 

[atlanticblue98]

yes, you can deactivate PATS with a SCT

although im not sure if it is a user adjustable option or if the Tuner (VMPTuning, etc.) is the one who has to do it

not sure about a Diablosport but i would assume i can do it too

 

[EastBayStang98]

thank u atlantic blue and may i add ur car is looking very nice in all ur photos

 

[atlanticblue98]

thank u atlantic blue and may i add ur car is looking very nice in all ur photos

thanks,

i added some more info to the last post, you responded while i edited it

 

[karrarararararar]

mine is turned off via my sniper special forces

 

[mustangmike98gt]

when u turn the key does it flash theft on the dash and not start?? because this happened to my 98 and it turned out to be some module in the front right fender.

 

[Shame302]

ecause this happened to my 98 and it turned out to be some module in the front right fender.

CCRM failure but its not part of PATS.

Anyway, I guess if you let the car sit long enough PATS will reset itself, but I'm not sure and can't verify that from experience. How exactly did you set PATS off? Why does it keep getting activated? It can't really me more than a handful of issues.

It can be turned off but its done in the tune, not in the "user controls." I would imagine that if you set PATS off and it wont reset, than its too late to flash the ECM anyway. Again, that's speculation as well.

I'm assuming you already have a handheld? Generally it will be cheaper to have the dealer re-sync past than it would be to buy a tuner, and having a tune uploaded to it.

 

[atlanticblue98]

ecause this happened to my 98 and it turned out to be some module in the front right fender.

CCRM failure.

Anyway, I guess if you let the car sit long enough PATS will reset itself, but I'm not sure and can't verify that from experience. How exactly did you set PATS off?

It can be turned off but its done in the tune, not in the "user controls." I would imagine that if you set PATS off and it wont reset, than its too late to flash the ECM anyway. Again, that's speculation as well.

the PATS just sometimes wears off after so many years, dont know why. i cant think of a reason, just kinda stops working.

PATS only keeps the car from running (engine). the accessories should still work, which means he should be able to plug in a Handheld tuner and get power to it so that he can load the tune

 

[Shame302]

the PATS just sometimes wears off after so many years, dont know why. i cant think of a reason, just kinda stops working.

PATS only keeps the car from running (engine). the accessories should still work, which means he should be able to plug in a Handheld tuner and get power to it so that he can load the tune

PATS doesn't just "wear off" something has to actually fail, or set it off.

My sentiment towards not being able to flash a car with pats off was weather or not the ECM will accept a tune while in protection mode. If PATS has been triggered, what makes you think the computer while accept a flash/tune, while in "lock down"? Again, I'm not saying that i know, I've never had an issue with PATS.

 

[atlanticblue98]

the PATS just sometimes wears off after so many years, dont know why. i cant think of a reason, just kinda stops working.

PATS only keeps the car from running (engine). the accessories should still work, which means he should be able to plug in a Handheld tuner and get power to it so that he can load the tune

PATS doesn't just "wear off" something has to actually fail, or set it off.

My sentiment towards not being able to flash a car with pats off was weather or not the ECM will accept a tune while in protection mode. If PATS has been triggered, what makes you think the computer while accept a flash/tune, while in "lock down"? Again, I'm not saying that i know, I've never had an issue with PATS.

i know someone on another forums has used a tuner to turn off PATS once they switched ECU's and the PATS in the key didnt not match the code in the ECU (didnt expect it to). obviously the car wouldnt start, and it fixed the problem. so it must be able to accept new tunes

 

[Shame302]

Well, there you go. Good luck with it.

 

[EastBayStang98]

thanks guys well im having a chip installed in my ecu that will shut off the pats, i should get the ecu back by today evening