Engine rebuild help

[russ8825]

Hi guys, I have a 95 gt vert thats pretty much stock except for a bigger fuel pump (autozone only had the racing one in stock when I was changing it). The motor has about 200,000 miles on, it runs strong but its starting to burn more and more oil (nothing that quart about every two weeks doesn't fix). I have around 2,500-3000 to spend on the motor. I was wondering how should I go about this rebuild? I see alot of guys talking about stroker kits, but I think you need to get machine work done with those kits. I wanna be putting the car somewhere into the 11's or very low 12's. I also think I'm gonna get a AODE to T-5 conversion around the sametime and put 3.73s in. I just wanna know pretty much can I get the car into that high 11 to low 12 range with that money, and should I go the bottom end route with the stroker or just get a nice Heads/cam/intake combo.

-Thanks russ

 

[7.5spool]

to get a 347 stroker to fit u have to machine the block for clearance. but not sure about a 331 tho. how much revs u plan on spinnin?

 

[mikey94gt]

Check out a few engine sites, like fordstrokers.net, Coasthiperformance.com, and DSS racing, they are bound to have something in your price range. I would think a stock block stroker with some nice heads would get you where you wanna be. or..... put one of Latemodel Restoration Supply's $650 302 shortblock in it and whack it with N20....

 

[LAFENATU]

Hi guys, I have a 95 gt vert thats pretty much stock except for a bigger fuel pump (autozone only had the racing one in stock when I was changing it). The motor has about 200,000 miles on, it runs strong but its starting to burn more and more oil (nothing that quart about every two weeks doesn't fix). I have around 2,500-3000 to spend on the motor. I was wondering how should I go about this rebuild? I see alot of guys talking about stroker kits, but I think you need to get machine work done with those kits. I wanna be putting the car somewhere into the 11's or very low 12's. I also think I'm gonna get a AODE to T-5 conversion around the sametime and put 3.73s in. I just wanna know pretty much can I get the car into that high 11 to low 12 range with that money, and should I go the bottom end route with the stroker or just get a nice Heads/cam/intake combo.

-Thanks russ

Russ,

Are you looking to build it or buy an assembled shortblock? $3000 all said and done or just for the motor?

You said you're motor is still stock so that means you still have stock heads etc.

 

[russ8825]

Sorry, I dont get on the computer much anymore. I'm figuring Ill have about 3k just for the motor. Me and father are working on the car (hes a retired mechanic and I'm just getting out college). I don't know much about how the kits fit on the stock engines, I would guess they might require machine fit on the stock block (maybe they wouldn't for a 331 and itd be cheaper lol). Either way, my engine has some miles on and when I take it apart i might find that it needs to be machined anyway. So I guess finding an assembled short block would be nice but the more I look, I don't really see any crate motors for around 3k. I just really need some good opinions on how to get the most bang for my buck.

Edit:
Btw, yea the engine is totally stock.

 

[7.5spool]

you could go for the .030 over 306 and get a trick flow top end kit and higher comp pistons
(compression ratio depending on if its gonna be a DD)

 

[russ8825]

I'd like to stay low compression, incase i wanna add n2o. I think i might wanna do a nice H/C/I combo now with a maybe a 150 shot of n2o. Probably gonna get some 24# injectors, 70mm TB. I need some advice on what combo to put in. I see alot of guys doing GT40 builds with e303 cams, I know theyre good for budget builds but since I have some money to burn (my 85 stang was stolen but luckily I had insurance so I'm using the money to build up the 95) , I'd like to put a really nice combo in. I'm probably thinking a low to mid range rev setup since the car is mostly gonna be a street/dd. So I'd like to hear what some guys with experience would do in this situation

 

[mikey94gt]

I would do stock compression (9.5:1), as the car will still run good off boost, and run like a raped-ape on boost. I know a lot of people leave the compression much lower, but your leaving power on the table. i wouldnt worry too much about N2O if you are planning on boost, you may just break stuff, if you are using a stock 5.0 HO block. I would spend the $$ on a good cooling system, such as a air to air front mount, Snow performance methanol kit, etc...that will help the engine last longer thru cooler intake temperatures.

 

[5.0kid]

ya, i'd say just get one of those 650 late model blocks and an hci combo, like trickflow. pretty full proof and about the price you're wanting to spend...

 

[Venom351R]

Do you want low 12's or 11's being NA or are you doing this on boost or nitrous? Depending on which way you build it will matter what you want to get for parts. If you stroke the engine out you will have to get it machined and that costs money to. $2,500-$3,000 goes very quick when your putting it into an engine. That will get you a H/C/I kit most of the time unless you want to do the time to search for each part used for a cheaper price. Then you have to add the cost of machine work on the block and the stoker kit its self.

To run low 12's or 11's its going to also take suspension work unless your just going to strap on a super charger then the crappy weight transfer and stock suspension set up can be over come due to the additional power. If your doing this N/A and want those goals its going to be a lot more then $3,000

 

[blkmcnasty]

^^^ agreed, an 11 or even 12 second mustang will need more supporting trans, drivetrain, rearend, and suspension mods to get you there without catastrophic failure. I would plan your budget a little higher for what you are wanting...

 

[russ8825]

I have around another 2,500 that I was gonna toss into getting a rear and new suspension (looking to put either 3.73s or a 4.10 in, as its an ADOE.) I have about 5,500 all together, I was just budgeting around 3k for the engine parts. I'm pretty sure now I'm going for nitrous in the car. What do you guys think about the trickflow top end kit (the 360hp one), and how it would hold up with a 125 or 150 shot ?
[Edit] I'd be happy with the car running in the high to mid 12's without the nitrous and hitting the lower 12's with it. It still gonna be my DD most likely so I don't wanna totally sacrifice all my MPG. (I hope maybe Ill still get around 14 or 15 to a gallon)

 

[Venom351R]

You can get a top end kit for $2,500 and that leaves enough left for a NO2 kit the Trick flow top endkit is a good choice. That plus a 150 shot will probably get you low 12's and that leaves you quite a bit of extra money to put in the car if you want to. If your going to use a power adder such as NO2 or Boost to get low 12's or 11's then dont stroke it b/c you can get it on the 302 engine with boost or nitrous, you would just be throwing money away. Use what you have left to put into the car to do suspension type stuff to see how low you can w/ out N02

 

[Win]

Combining the correct stock parts can net you very good times. I am chasing 12's with my setup i am putting together. There have been quite a few people over on corral pushing mid to high 11's with fox's on ported stock heads and intakes. Of course you have to do a little massaging of the heads and change the springs in them and run a better RR. There really isn't too much to it. I will only have 1 grand into my motor when i get done. I probably won't get to the track until Mid April but i will post #'s

 

[7.5spool]

4.10s are great for auto cars

 

[Venom351R]

4.10's are great fun for manual cars

 

[rz5.0]

get a fresh 302. any were from 400 to 900 depending were you get them from. find some gt40 heads and intake all bolt on. then slap a turbo on it and you have your 500hp. with a turbo i would get 3.27 maybe 3.55 or stock and replace in the future. with the proper tune and fuel upgrades.