Harness Bar Project - PICS! *UPDATE*

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The last few times I've auto-x'ed my car, I've gotten a little frustrated with how much I float around in the seat. Side to side, the bolsters on the Bullitt seats are great, but getting on and off the gas so frequently throws me back and forth in the seat too much. Since I recently got laid off from my job, and money is tight, I figured while I'm searching for another design job, I'll keep my skills up. I decided that $300 for a Corbeau harness bar was ridiculous considering its just a few pieces of tubing and some brackets, so I'm making my own. Excuse my welding, sometimes it isn't pretty, I'm still learning. No better way than to get my hands dirty, right?

Here's what I've spent in materials so far:

$16 - 1.25" x 60" OD DOM tubing
$6 - 1/8" x 1.5" x 36" steel bar
$6 - 2 sawzall blades
FREE.99 - random metal for brackets that I had
FREE.99 - Grade 8 bolts
$27 - (4) 3/8" spherical rodends

I began to document the process after I started welding so there is no pics of the very beginning. I started by bending both ends of the tube on roughly a 30*-35* angle with my hydraulic tubing bender. Then I cut each end on a slant and welded the brackets to each end. These brackets mount to the upper seatbelt bolts.

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After drilling the holes in the brackets, I test fit everything and my measurements were just about spot on.

Next I made 2 right angle brackets that mount to the bottom of the main bar. These brackets will have a tube attached to each one that runs down to the lower seatbelt mount where I fabbed up another pair of brackets. There will be 2 holes drilled in each; one bolts to the seatbelt bolt, the other is where the downtube mounts.

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It will be easier to see once I get it a little further along but I haven't gotten to making the downtubes yet.

The main crossbar is done, I just need to fab a small camera mount for the center, and paint it up. I'm thinking about a matte black wrinkle finish paint or bumper coating. Here's where I am as of today including a few pics of it mocked up in the car:

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I have a set of black Simpson 5-point harnesses that my dad gave me from his old race car with like 5 track days on them. NHRA requires new belts every 2 years even if they are in perfect condition so he had some lying around. Saved me a nice $100!

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I will be updating this thread as I continue the project. Enjoy!
 

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wow good job man....and extremely creative as well!!
 
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duh09 said:
Very nice, very nice.

Wanna make me one? :p

I'll consider making these once I finish this one. There is a lot of trial and error with fitment so it's been somewhat of a pain for a few pieces. Once I have a solid, finished design, then I'll think about offering them. I'll PM you once I decide.
 

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stprorolla49 said:
duh09 said:
Very nice, very nice.

Wanna make me one? :p

I'll consider making these once I finish this one. There is a lot of trial and error with fitment so it's been somewhat of a pain for a few pieces. Once I have a solid, finished design, then I'll think about offering them. I'll PM you once I decide.

pm me 2 im definetly interested
 

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Re: Harness Bar Project - PICS!

stprorolla49 said:
duh09 said:
Very nice, very nice.

Wanna make me one? :p

I'll consider making these once I finish this one. There is a lot of trial and error with fitment so it's been somewhat of a pain for a few pieces. Once I have a solid, finished design, then I'll think about offering them. I'll PM you once I decide.

Not a bad idea on your part. If you can make them and price them good, I wouldn't mind one.

Mine would be easy to make, there's no plastic in the way haha.
 
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duh09 said:
stprorolla49 said:
duh09 said:
Very nice, very nice.

Wanna make me one? :p

I'll consider making these once I finish this one. There is a lot of trial and error with fitment so it's been somewhat of a pain for a few pieces. Once I have a solid, finished design, then I'll think about offering them. I'll PM you once I decide.

Not a bad idea on your part. If you can make them and price them good, I wouldn't mind one.

Mine would be easy to make, there's no plastic in the way haha.

Yea, the plastic isn't really the issue, its just the trial and error of the angles needed for all the bends. I'm going my best to make it similar to the tried and true Corbeau piece, but I don't actually have one to model it off so I'm just using an educated eye to fab this up. Since I had a lot of the stuff lying around, it's been cheap for me to make, but it would probably cost me ~$75 or more in materials if I had to purchase everything. I guess it all depends on what people would expect to pay for one. Again, we'll see what happens. If I get another job in my field soon, then I probably won't have time to make them, but if not, I'll seriously consider it.

Time to order the rod ends :headbang:
 

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that reminds me i need a front bumper support. im ditching the foam.
 

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I think before you start selling these you find a way to have them tested to see if those welds will hold up in an accident, it would be tragic to have a bar fail and then have you liable for someones injury! The reason I say this is because making some money on the side is all good! and I am sure if you sell them cheaply enough people will buy them, But I am also sure that if someone out got into an accident they will try to blame you should the bar fail!!! just my 2cents :dontknow: I would love one too! dont get me wrong im just looking out for you...
 
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Venomous96Cobra said:
I think before you start selling these you find a way to have them tested to see if those welds will hold up in an accident, it would be tragic to have a bar fail and then have you liable for someones injury! The reason I say this is because making some money on the side is all good! and I am sure if you sell them cheaply enough people will buy them, But I am also sure that if someone out got into an accident they will try to blame you should the bar fail!!! just my 2cents :dontknow: I would love one too! dont get me wrong im just looking out for you...

Thanks man. I completely agree, and honestly I've thought the same thing and for that reason, I'm probably not going to make anymore of them. Not that I don't think it'll hold up, but theres really no way to test it, and like you said, I'm not willing to risk it for a few hundred bucks. Plus I don't think people would pay enough for them to make it worth me making more. If I sold them for $200ish per bar, I'd be ok with it, but people won't pay that. Everyone wants a lot for a little nowadays...not saying you'd be that person, just saying that most people don't have a clue how long it takes to custom make something like this. I've got probably 8-10 hours in this thing already. Figure I spend $75-100 on materials, that means I only make $100 on the bar. Considering I've probably got another 5 or so hours left to finish the thing up, that puts me at ~15 hours on the build. If you divide $100 by 15 hours, thats less than $7 an hour. Not worth it in my book.

I have a feeling this will be a one-off MBdesigns piece.
 

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looks cool! love the placement under the stock seatbelt thing!
 
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UPDATE:

I've been really busy the last week or so and the weather has been really cold to weld but yesterday it was a little warmer and I made a ton of progress.

I fixed the side tabs by welding another piece on the back and drilling the hole a bit higher up. This fixed my problem of the factory belts rubbing against the main bar. Then I welded the thin bars on the top of the main bar to hold the shoulder belts in place. I mis measured buy an inch on both sides so I have to cut and relocate them next time I go out to weld. What a n00b! Anyway, then I bent the 2 downtubes on my tubing bender and hammered 3/8" bolts into the ends so I could thread the rod ends on.

All I need to do to finish the bar is relocate the shoulder strap "holders", and weld the bolts into the downtubes. I borrowed my friends little 1" disc grinder/sander to smooth out some of the welds, then I'm going to prime it and paint it with VHT black wrinkle finish paint. I bought the paint last week and did a test swatch on a scrap piece of metal, and it looks pretty awesome. It might end up being a little glossier than I wanted so I might spray some semi-gloss black on top of it, but the wrinkle finish will remain.

Here's some pics as I went along. Sorry for the quality, they are from my Blackberry. I'm always so nervous to bring my SLR out when my hands are dirty, and I always forget to get a camera until I'm almost done haha. Enjoy!

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Thanks man! It needs a little bit of adjustment here and there and a sweet coat of paint, but it's extremely sturdy! I can't wait to get this thing in the car...that'll mean that auto-x season is starting. I'm officially addicted!!
 
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