Help Identifying Misfire Source

codfod

Member
Joined
Mar 6, 2016
Messages
177
Reaction score
2
Location
SoCal
Coming home from school tonight the car started to miss on the freeway, was every 10 seconds or so, gradually started to pick up until it was constant under any kind of load in any gear, managed to coast it off the freeway and towards a side street. Car died while coasting, tried to turn it back on and give it gas to get it moving but under almost full throttle in first it just died again. Pushed it out of the street and let it cool for a bit before trying to turn it on again. Go to start it, and it's got a bouncy idle going from 500 rpm to 100 and back up again, all while the car starts to smell like raw fuel.

Process of deduction has left me at the distributor being the issue, my question is if this is an issue with the distributor itself being broken, or maybe just the rotor and cap? I took the cap off and it seemed where the rotor has been touching the points the plastic looked burnt, not sure if that's normal. This is on a 94 5.0 with a T5.
 

ttocs

Post Whore
Joined
Oct 9, 2009
Messages
32,676
Reaction score
5,677
Location
Evansville Indiana
start simple and check to ensure all the spark plug wires are still connected on both the dist and the heads. I have had one come loose and cause a miss before as well as just has my intake get a little loose and start causing problems once it heated up.
 
OP
OP
codfod

codfod

Member
Joined
Mar 6, 2016
Messages
177
Reaction score
2
Location
SoCal
First thing I did was check plug wires, I've had one come off before and this was a wildly different feeling. I'm going to check on the distributor today, I've got another 5.0 so I'll steal the ignition coil off that and try it to attempt to eliminate that as the issue. I also really doubt it's the cap and rotor because those have just about 11k on them.
 
OP
OP
codfod

codfod

Member
Joined
Mar 6, 2016
Messages
177
Reaction score
2
Location
SoCal
Tried the other ignition coil, no difference. Going to take the cap off the distributor later, see if the rotor spins freely while cranking, if not then that should hopefully be my issue.
 

evilcw311

Most Evil Member!
SN95 Supporter
Joined
May 9, 2010
Messages
7,456
Reaction score
2,136
Location
Louisville, KY
Fuel pump could of also went out. If it isn't the dizzy I'd be checking fuel pressure.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

96blak54

Moderator
Staff
Joined
Feb 21, 2011
Messages
10,043
Reaction score
2,884
Location
In the shop
Id say its either the tfi module or the pick up down inside the distributor. Notorious ford problem
 
OP
OP
codfod

codfod

Member
Joined
Mar 6, 2016
Messages
177
Reaction score
2
Location
SoCal
Took the cap off and cranked it, the distributor rotor still spins freely so I'm not thinking the issue lies with the distributor but maybe I'm wrong.
 
OP
OP
codfod

codfod

Member
Joined
Mar 6, 2016
Messages
177
Reaction score
2
Location
SoCal
Fuel pump could of also went out. If it isn't the dizzy I'd be checking fuel pressure.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It does smell like it's running super rich, if I give it any kind of revs it backfires as well.
 
OP
OP
codfod

codfod

Member
Joined
Mar 6, 2016
Messages
177
Reaction score
2
Location
SoCal
Id say its either the tfi module or the pick up down inside the distributor. Notorious ford problem

Reading about the TFI I saw somebody say that it acts like a light switch, either the car is running fine or it won't even start at all. If that's true then that's not the issue, since the car will start up and *run*, but again I don't know.

If the issue was the pick up inside the distributor, would the distributor rotor still spin freely while cranking?
 

ReplicaR

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 2, 2007
Messages
3,452
Reaction score
428
I've had the pickup coil go bad inside the distributor in my car. The result was intermittent misfire under load
 

95opal

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 21, 2007
Messages
3,033
Reaction score
1,624
Sounds like a classic PIP failure.
 

96blak54

Moderator
Staff
Joined
Feb 21, 2011
Messages
10,043
Reaction score
2,884
Location
In the shop
The dizzy pick up, better known as the PIP like 95opal suggest, is essentially the crankshaft and camshaft sensor. Its telling the computer where the internals are. If it so much blips a bad signal, the car doesnt run well at all. Although it still runs, just real poopy....or just fine. And then there are days itll goof up in mid driving.

Youve replaced everything you thought it was. Now go replace the dizzy.
 

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
77,527
Messages
1,504,316
Members
14,993
Latest member
5pointSL0

Members online

Top