Hey all you Oil FAN-Natics!

[NERD]

Are you bored? Have you done everything possible in life including saving the world from impending asteroids or defeated all the Rings of Halo and now you just don't know what to do? Ever wondered about which oil you should run and long it's good for? Ever though you could get all of your answers in a short 17 page article written in TNR at 12 font?

Here's the link.
http://www.4shared.com/file/98819467/1e56a997/Engine_Oil_101-01.html

You don't have to read it but you'll be smarter if you did. Some things I'd like to argue about but I don't have a PHD in BioChemestry so I don' think I have the weight. lol

 

[MustangChris]

................................. i feel dumber... thanks for sharing... lol....

 

[NERD]

................................. i feel dumber... thanks for sharing... lol....

dumber? How can you feel dumber after reading that? It must have been too much brain-ersizing. I bet your brain is pumped!

 

[MustangChris]

yea... im not very smart. lol... so... when i read things like that it just makes me feel dumb because i dont understand it....

 

[OnyxCobra]

short and 17 pages don't really go together. Could you please do a cliff notes version for us?

 

[NERD]

Thin oil oil is good, change your oil often, never mix your oils

 

[OnyxCobra]

so then why don't we all run 5w20? From what i've gathered most people actually change their oil way more often then is actually necessary. and what do you mean by mix?

 

[NERD]

so then why don't we all run 5w20? From what i've gathered most people actually change their oil way more often then is actually necessary. and what do you mean by mix?

5w20 is fine. Now for someone like me that's constantly over 214* at the track I should run 0w30.

Here is a few viscosities per temp. (Now remember that 90% of all engine wear is durring initial start up)
Oil type.. Thickness at 75 F ..Thickness at 212 F

Straight 30..........250....................10
10W-30...............100....................10
0W-30.................40.....................10

Straight 10..........30.....................6
Straight 5...........20.....................4
Straight 2...........15.....................3
Straight 0...........12.....................3 est.

Different brands have different additives than have different wear characteristics mixing brands can dilute and screw up the engine.

""It is time to dispel the notion that 0W-30 oil is too thin when our manual calls for 10W-30. A 0W-30 is always the better choice, always. The 0W-30 is not thinner. It is the same thickness as the 10W-30 at operating temperatures. The difference is when you turn your engine off for the night. Both oils thicken over the evening and night. They both had a thickness, a viscosity of 10 when you got home and turned your engine off. That was the perfect thickness for engine operation. ""

 

[OnyxCobra]

hmm so ur saying i should start running 0w30? Seems way thin for startup just cause of what i'm used to...

 

[NERD]

hmm so ur saying i should start running 0w30? Seems way thin for startup just cause of what i'm used to...

it's not thin enough at start up. No oil is.

 

[riored96gt]

What a great article!

I always like to know the "Why" of what I'm doing, not just do it because...

Looks like I'll go 0-30 synthetic in both the Mustang and the 454 truck.

Thanks!

 

[MustangChris]

im scared of going away from Ford's suggestions... Listening to Ford has gotten me 120,000 Miles... lol.

 

[NERD]

im scared of going away from Ford's suggestions... Listening to Ford has gotten me 120,000 Miles... lol.

if you read the article, then seen that it's not the 20 or 30 that's the problem, it's the 5w or the 10w. I don't know what year it was but Ford switched to 20 to save a fraction of MPG. So, since there was not a major overhaul to the Modular engine design (heads don't count) ford believes this is satisfactory.

Now to clear it up a little, 90% of engine damage is done during initial start up when the there is no oil at the top. When your car sits over night and the temp drop it thickens the oil and the "think" oil takes longer to surface the engine. "There is no oil weight that satisfactorily coats the engine on initial start up." So the best choice is to use 5w over 10w or even a 0w for normal duty cars. If my engine wasn't such a high performance engine, I'd be running 0w20 but I often see temps above 214*. I suggest reading post #7 and take in what it means.

I'm not strong arming anyone to think the way I do but knowing as much as you can about things that involve you,"I think" is of great importance.

Also, Ford and all other Car makers suggest tolerances, fluids and maintenance based on the worst case scenario owner/driver. They do this for longevity and lower maintenance.

 

[MustangChris]

well i use 5w30 in winter and 10w30 in summer so i think im pretty good... maybe ill just stick with 5w30 year round...

 

[OnyxCobra]

man all this talk is making me want to read that article..

 

[NERD]

man all this talk is making me want to read that article..

Don't be scarrrrred. It's even broke down in 1-2 page mini topics.