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ok i need some advice guys. i am not very tech savy when it comes to cars so i need to know wut u guys think. my intake manifold is cracked on my 98 gt so i want to get the pi intake for it. the only problem is the only kit that i can find that will bolt on is the one from livernois auto sports and it is $499. but i have been doing a little bit of research and i noticed that i can get the ford racing PI heads for $450 and then i can also get the PI intake from american muscle that can only be used on PI heads for $200. so wut do u guys think i should do? dont forget i would also have to pay for someone to install all of this since i wouldnt know how so if anyone could give me a close estimate on about how much installation would cost that would be awesome. thanks guys
 

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My intake did the same thing. I think if you have the money you might as well just do the pi swap now. Its going to be over $1000 for install My car is in the shop right now getting a pi swap $1600 is what they told me. Hope this helps.
 

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Install on the heads is usually quoted around 20 hours. Just get another cheap stock intake and really consider which direction you want to go with the car before you start buying parts.
 

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95PGTTech said:
Install on the heads is usually quoted around 20 hours. Just get another cheap stock intake and really consider which direction you want to go with the car before you start buying parts.

agreed. what if you want better heads sometime down the road? just saying its a bad idea to pay for pi if theres any chance u may go with better heads down the road.
 
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i dont think i will end up going with better head but i also never really thought about it. but it could be an option down the line.
 

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jerms said:
i dont think i will end up going with better head but i also never really thought about it. but it could be an option down the line.

I'm going to be doing the PI intake swap in the next few months too and I think I'm going to stop there with the PI stuff. The intake swap appears to be relatively affordable, and maybe even doable for a novice like me. I'll probably end up getting the Livernois simply because it looks like the simplest kit available, and my 96 Auto has proven again and again to be the most difficult car on the earth to work on. Nothing is easy on it. Down the road if I decide to go cams and heads, I'll probably go aftermarket and stock port and polished.
 

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MustangChris said:
i got quoted $1,200.00 just for removal of the OEM heads.

Wow! That's wild. Exactly why I'm settling for just the intake swap myself for now. Course if you already have the moolah or the skills and tools to do it yourself, I guess the point is moot. Its funny, I'm also a member of a hi-fi headphone forum and 1200 is all some people pay for a low end headphone amp (add to that high end headphones, fancy DAC, and a nice source and you're looking at thousands), so all things relative, can't really complain too much about the price of a head swap.
 

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That's actually a pretty fair price. At work, I just had two trucks come in the last week. One 5.4L 3V (2008 F250) owner tried to do his own tune up at 100K (work truck lots of miles) and 3 plugs broke off in the passenger side head. Very common with that style plug supposed to be changed according to the latest TSB @ 50K. 21.7 hours to R/R just that head (keep in mind that head is (timing wise) in front and far easier. That does not include the other misc. stuff I did. Next was a 2001 5.4L 2V that blew two plugs out. R/R head was 20.2.

Just in labor, that's $2K each alone. I think both bills were around $3.5K by the time they did all the gaskets, new timing components, etc. to do the job right. Keep in mind, I am no longer at the dealer it would likely be more expensive there.

Other guys ran for the hills when they saw those jobs come in (or anything but brake jobs really). Myself, I was happy as a pig in shit. Did both in about 13 man hours each. Waited a bit on parts, though. Helps that I've done it a few hundred times and have the factory FSM's, Rotunda tools, torque specs by memory...



Modular motors are a PITA to work on. Why do you think I'm going Chevy small block?
 
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yeah i think i am probably going to just do the intake and that way i can keep things open for other stuff down the line
 

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i just put a set of heads on a 97 the other day. my shop labor time calls for 19 hours. You have a fair price on the heads. but if your not sure def take some time and think and leave yourself open for down the road. get it fixed for right now so that way you can enjoy while thinking things over.
 

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