I want to build a Engine

BruhBrahBrad · Apr 16, 2009

Ok so I have this Idea. I really wanna learn how to build an engine to replace my 196k mile motor I have now,when I can. I want to start with a 5.0 longblock either from a stang or explorer. Preferably Explorer so I can get those GT40 intakes and heads. I wanna rebuild it with a 331 stroker kit, and have the heads and intake ported.

How do I begin this task? I've never built an engine before. So Help me out. Im gonna have a lot of spare time on my hands soon. I figure this will get me busy on what I wanna do with my life haha.

So give me a basic walk-through 5.0 masters!

Win · Apr 16, 2009

http://sn95forums.com/index.php?topic=33034.msg576682#msg576682

thats a thread i started a while back

ga94gt · Apr 16, 2009

What is your defintion on building an engine? Tearing it completly apart and putting it back together or taking the heads off and cam out and installing a new one?

This is just me but if you want a complete rebuild I would take it to a pro, and let them do it, there is more to just droping in the pistons and crank in and puttin the heads on and cam in. It is very tedious and have to be exact. Although if you are very mechanically inclined you could do it just take your time and ask Paul for tips as he has done this.

But if you are refering to putting heads and cam in then thats cake.

BlkoutGT · Apr 16, 2009

You NEED to get yourself a good book that tells you what to do. When I rebuilt my old engine I was lucky enough to have a ford shop manual, that was excellent step by step intruction.

Rice_slayer · Apr 16, 2009

Money. First problem is money. Engine builds tend to cost twice as much as you were expecting

. If you want a stroker, take it to an engine rebuilder and get them to do the whole rotate assy. even a .001" of an inch can screw an entire engine up!

Win · Apr 16, 2009

http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/iwwida.pvx?;item?item_no=LRS-6009E%20%20%20%20%20%201&comp=LRS

There you go grab some heads a cam and intake all all the other small stuff and your set.

Rice_slayer · Apr 16, 2009

95convgt said:
http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/iwwida.pvx?;item?item_no=LRS-6009E%20%20%20%20%20%201&comp=LRS

There you go grab some heads a cam and intake all all the other small stuff and your set.

Thats what I am doing! :thumbsup:

BruhBrahBrad · Apr 16, 2009

BlkoutGT said:
You NEED to get yourself a good book that tells you what to do. When I rebuilt my old engine I was lucky enough to have a ford shop manual, that was excellent step by step intruction.

I take it your not talking about a chiltons book. What Kinda book are you talking about. When I say I wanna rebuild it I guess I wanted To NOT spend 700 dollars on a block. I was going to get a block from the Junkyard. I dont have that kinda $$$. I was hoping I could get a longblock out of the Yard and buy a stroker Kit, Some Gt-40 heads and Cobra intake and a cam.

So how hard is it for a beginner to LEARN how to do this stuff? I guess If I have to let a shop install the rotating assembly, I will, but I was hoping to learn it myself.

Rice_slayer · Apr 16, 2009

95_5.0@15 said:
BlkoutGT said:

You NEED to get yourself a good book that tells you what to do. When I rebuilt my old engine I was lucky enough to have a ford shop manual, that was excellent step by step intruction.

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I take it your not talking about a chiltons book. What Kinda book are you talking about. When I say I wanna rebuild it I guess I wanted To NOT spend 700 dollars on a block. I was going to get a block from the Junkyard. I dont have that kinda $$$. I was hoping I could get a longblock out of the Yard and buy a stroker Kit, Some Gt-40 heads and Cobra intake and a cam.

So how hard is it for a beginner to LEARN how to do this stuff? I guess If I have to let a shop install the rotating assembly, I will, but I was hoping to learn it myself.

Getting a block from a junk yard is a no-no. Spend the money and do it the right way. $700 for a block is VERY cheap. And putting in the rotating assembly requires precision machining with no room for mistakes. Build a half-assed engine with Junkyard parts and it will last you a year tops. Slopping together USED things for a performance engine is one of the stupidest things you can do. A person can be cheap on suspension, but never on engine internals...

BruhBrahBrad · Apr 16, 2009

OK well let me rephrase I guess. It most likely wont be straight from the YARD but probably off of Craigslist. Dude I cant really Spend 700 dollars on the block I dont think. I know Its all refurbished and special and all that B.S, But I can Get a running motor for like 300-400 tops. I have seen people build up Junkyard motors and they have lasted for more than a year

Win · Apr 16, 2009

95_5.0@15 said:
BlkoutGT said:

You NEED to get yourself a good book that tells you what to do. When I rebuilt my old engine I was lucky enough to have a ford shop manual, that was excellent step by step intruction.

Click to expand...

I take it your not talking about a chiltons book. What Kinda book are you talking about. When I say I wanna rebuild it I guess I wanted To NOT spend 700 dollars on a block. I was going to get a block from the Junkyard. I dont have that kinda $$$. I was hoping I could get a longblock out of the Yard and buy a stroker Kit, Some Gt-40 heads and Cobra intake and a cam.

So how hard is it for a beginner to LEARN how to do this stuff? I guess If I have to let a shop install the rotating assembly, I will, but I was hoping to learn it myself.

Rice_slayer said:
95_5.0@15 said:

BlkoutGT said:

You NEED to get yourself a good book that tells you what to do. When I rebuilt my old engine I was lucky enough to have a ford shop manual, that was excellent step by step intruction.

Click to expand...

I take it your not talking about a chiltons book. What Kinda book are you talking about. When I say I wanna rebuild it I guess I wanted To NOT spend 700 dollars on a block. I was going to get a block from the Junkyard. I dont have that kinda $$$. I was hoping I could get a longblock out of the Yard and buy a stroker Kit, Some Gt-40 heads and Cobra intake and a cam.

So how hard is it for a beginner to LEARN how to do this stuff? I guess If I have to let a shop install the rotating assembly, I will, but I was hoping to learn it myself.

Click to expand...

Getting a block from a junk yard is a no-no. Spend the money and do it the right way. $700 for a block is VERY cheap. And putting in the rotating assembly requires precision machining with no room for mistakes. Build a half-assed engine with Junkyard parts and it will last you a year tops. Slopping together USED things for a performance engine is one of the stupidest things you can do. A person can be cheap on suspension, but never on engine internals...

Yeah you have no idea what a Junkyard block has been through. I mean you could buy it then take it to a Machine Shop and go that route but it will cost you as much or more then that block from 5.0 Resto.

Win · Apr 16, 2009

95_5.0@15 said:
OK well let me rephrase I guess. It most likely wont be straight from the YARD but probably off of Craigslist. Dude I cant really Spend 700 dollars on the block I dont think. I know Its all refurbished and special and all that B.S, But I can Get a running motor for like 300-400 tops. I have seen people build up Junkyard motors and they have lasted for more than a year

You still have to go on what someone says and Trust them. I still wouldn't do it. I was thinking of that route too but a few people from here talked me out of it. Craigslist is just the same as a Junkyard

BruhBrahBrad · Apr 16, 2009

UGHHH MAN!!! I really dont wanna spend 700 on a block, But you guys are makin me do it. But then I wont have much money to actually build the motor. Yes you're right it all comes down to money, but damn.

Win · Apr 16, 2009

95_5.0@15 said:
UGHHH MAN!!! I really dont wanna spend 700 on a block, But you guys are makin me do it. But then I wont have much money to actually build the motor. Yes you're right it all comes down to money, but damn.

Just do it right the first time and then you won't spend more down the road. So what it takes a little longer to build a motor you will be happy in the end that you did it right.

BruhBrahBrad · Apr 16, 2009

So heres option 2: What If I have a shop bore my exhisting motor out to a 308? How cost effective would that be and is that too much boring?

Win · Apr 16, 2009

95_5.0@15 said:
So heres option 2: What If I have a shop bore my exhisting motor out to a 308? How cost effective would that be and is that too much boring?

Machining and the cost of new parts would be more then the cost of that Shortblock from LMR

BruhBrahBrad · Apr 16, 2009

Do those shortblocks come bored?

duh09 · Apr 16, 2009

Here's my advice because I'm about to start gathering parts too.

Spend the money now and do it right. Don't skimp on it because down the road, it'll come back and bite you. I'm planning on buying the LMR 302 and piecing together a decent H/C/I. If you want to get a good. everything included, then def look into the Trickflow setup. I wouldn't buy a used block/internals. That's just asking for trouble... If you want a nice setup now, just wait for deals and spend it all now instead of buying crap to get you by for now and then buying the parts you really wanted and have to swap everything over. If you're building a motor and you're car is running fine now, then that motor can wait as long as you need it to. I'm going to be purchasing that shortblock soon, bagging it up on a stand, and throwing it into or storage shed. I'm not sure exactly what setup I'm going with now, but I'd like to go a little bit better than the standard GT40 setup just because I want to build this once and get it over with. My motor's got 175k mi roughly and runs good enough to get me back and forth. I'm babying it and taking good care of it so it'll last until I get that new motor started/finished.

Keep your eyes open for deals at local shops. One of my friend's and her dad are about to pick up a built 306 for fairly cheap considering what it is (don't remember specifics). They're friends with the guy who owns the shop and he built it for one of his cars and then a buddy of his totaled the car. Coming onto these deals are kinda hard if you don't know the right people and don'thave the money to jump on it, but who knows. There are deals out there if you look.

Good luck with the build.