Josh Klugger's Drag Radial car STOLEN!

[DropTopPony]

Whats a GPS tracking device weigh @ 1lb?

 

[MustangChris]

Whats a GPS tracking device weigh @ 1lb?

yea... and that 1 pound is .00000001 of a second... which, after watching F&F, could lose the race... it doesnt matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning...

id personally get a sponsorship from lowjack on my next ride

 

[95PGTTech]

GPS devices are STRICTLY forbidden by major racing sanctioning bodies (NHRA, NMRA, PSCA, etc.) regardless of what the intent of their use is. This would be a major advantage for a bracket/index car.

Would you expect him to uninstall it for every race and then reinstall it? The best you could really do is put it on the trailer somehow, assuming it has some sort of battery/self powering system and hope the car and trailer are taken together.

 

[MustangChris]

i dont understand how the gps is an advantage.

 

[badass98svt]

There's a thread about this on another forum I'm on. www.smokinstangs.comhttp://

 

[ttocs]

please tell me how an alarm with GPS tracking capabilities is a performance product that would limit what he can race? I am talking about nothing more then a unit that you can install in the car, that if it is moved it will alert you as well as tell you where it is. I am sure any NHRA or other tech idiot could tell an alarm from performance pieces.

 

[DropTopPony]

I totally forgot about the GPS rules in major racing. Most of the classes are brackets so a GPS could be used to pinpoint ETA's and alert a driver of real time distance/time to finish and let him know to slow down or speed up to hit the dialed in time.

 

[95PGTTech]

I totally forgot about the GPS rules in major racing. Most of the classes are brackets so a GPS could be used to pinpoint ETA's and alert a driver of real time distance/time to finish and let him know to slow down or speed up to hit the dialed in time.

Exactly. You guys really need to know what you're talking about - we're not talking about our bolt on street cars, this is a $300,000 (likely far more), purpose built racecar, built for a specific set of rules and class.

You cannot argue that the GPS is made by an anti-theft company, is unmodified, and is strictly used for that reason - it will never fly, it's too easy to modify electronics. God forbid you ever won a race and were torn down, you can get year plus penalties for stuff like that. If a competitor gets wind that you have an anti-theft GPS device on the car, they're going to protest you and win, easily.

 

[95PGTTech]

please tell me how an alarm with GPS tracking capabilities is a performance product that would limit what he can race? I am talking about nothing more then a unit that you can install in the car, that if it is moved it will alert you as well as tell you where it is. I am sure any NHRA or other tech idiot could tell an alarm from performance pieces.

read the NHRA rulebook.
it doesn't matter what you or I think - it matters what the tech inspector sees and his interpretation of the rules. your $300,000 racecar is useless if it never makes it through tech and sits on the trailer the whole weekend (and likely ate up thousands in fuel, travel, food expenses).

For those that paid for their handbook, the easiest reference is Section 19, Rule 9.2, paragraph 2. You can also find class-specific stuff under your appropriate class listing in the book.

 

[ttocs]

who's $300k car is useless? We don't know anymore do we? While I agree making it through tech is important, I would rate making it TO tech 10x more important. You can fix things that do not pass, if they are there... I would hope that a tech would be able to tell that is is a non-performance related device since it isn't hooked up to any part of the motor, just the ignition.

 

[95PGTTech]

It is not whether he believes it to be a performance-related device or not. The rule book, which it is his job to enforce, prohibits the device. This is not a hypothetical situation, this has come up. There is absolutely no way to prove its intent, therefore it is required to be removed. If it is easily accessible/removal, it makes a pretty poor security device.

Use other methods of security to get it to tech. Because in the kind of class this car is racing, failing tech and getting your license pulled for an entire season is really little different than having someone steal the car. Some offenses are license revoked forever.

Again, you are displaying your lack of knowledge on the subject. This is not state inspection. You do not have a 30 day grace period to fix mistakes on the car. They pull your license on the spot for most offenses. Regardless of what your objection is, claim innocence, mistake, someone else didn't - doesn't matter. Your car, and you as a driver, are usually done for the season and facing five digit fines. The purpose of being so over the top on penalties, even for things that could easily be explained as mistake or being naive, is to as much as possible prevent cheating by fear of punishment.

 

[ttocs]

man all I am sayin is I would rather have a car I couldn't race, then no car at all..

 

[95PGTTech]

Why would you want $300,000 lawn ornament?
I'd rather not have it and have to look at it every day and remember the giant mistake I made.

You going to go run 8.50's at test and tune night when it costs you a couple grand to get the car to and down the track?

Class racing - people don't get it.

 

[ttocs]

I guess we are different and will have to agree to disagree. I would rather have a car that I might not be able to race then not have a car that I know I could not race, nor look at, sell or even piss on if I felt like it. Even if it was good for nothin more then waxing it and pissin off the neighbors it would be much much better then dealing with insurance companies and the police but to each his own!